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    By the vast majority of accounts Vortex has outstanding customer service.

    By many accounts, Vortex has quality control issues that seem to be concentrated, though not exclusive, to their more modest offerings.
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    I have a Marlin 1894c with a Vortex Venom mounted on the forward receiver holes using a EGW mount. On October 31 2021, I used it to shoot a spke blacktail buck during the last five minutes of early firearms deer season. The round went exactly where I put the dot and the deer dropped within ten yards.

    Thanks to bouts of The Rona and other shenanigans I haven’t shot the gun until today. I took it out with the intention of zeroing it with 140 grain Barnes loads. First I thought I’d put some of the zeroed load, Federal 158 JSP, ex to get reacquainted.

    Somehow the optic broke sitting in the safe. It shot very consistent groups, three FEET low. The witness marks are still on the dials. They haven’t been moved.

    So the optic is coming off, to be replaced temporarily with a Vortex crossfire from another gun. Long term plan is to put a Midwest Industries mount on it with an Aimpoint Duty RDS.
    I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    I have a Marlin 1894c with a Vortex Venom mounted on the forward receiver holes using a EGW mount. On October 31 2021, I used it to shoot a spke blacktail buck during the last five minutes of early firearms deer season. The round went exactly where I put the dot and the deer dropped within ten yards.

    Thanks to bouts of The Rona and other shenanigans I haven’t shot the gun until today. I took it out with the intention of zeroing it with 140 grain Barnes loads. First I thought I’d put some of the zeroed load, Federal 158 JSP, ex to get reacquainted.

    Somehow the optic broke sitting in the safe. It shot very consistent groups, three FEET low. The witness marks are still on the dials. They haven’t been moved.

    So the optic is coming off, to be replaced temporarily with a Vortex crossfire from another gun. Long term plan is to put a Midwest Industries mount on it with an Aimpoint Duty RDS.
    I suppose you'll check the tightness of the EGW mount + the tightness of the barrel bands as well, right?

    I would expect a loose mount to result in a wandering zero. But any changes to the barrel band could be consistent enough to move the impact low. Though several feet would be kind of crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    I suppose you'll check the tightness of the EGW mount + the tightness of the barrel bands as well, right?

    I would expect a loose mount to result in a wandering zero. But any changes to the barrel band could be consistent enough to move the impact low. Though several feet would be kind of crazy.
    Yup. Everything is tight as a tick. Also, it still shoots really nice groups, just not in the place you want them to be. When I've seen issues caused by loose hardware, the groups tend to be huge as well.
    I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    Yup. Everything is tight as a tick. Also, it still shoots really nice groups, just not in the place you want them to be. When I've seen issues caused by loose hardware, the groups tend to be huge as well.
    Yea, that is in line with my experience, but I figured it was worth a mention, just in case.

    Bummer really.

    At this point it really seems like Holosun or Primary Arms-branded Holosuns are the solution for low(er) cost optics.

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    I have two Vortex Venoms. One on 625 and one on a Ruger MKII. The only problem I've had is the last one I purchased has a battery cover that will only screw in with great difficulty. It uses the same battery as the first one I bought that works just fine. Very frustrating. Probably wouldn't buy another one because of that. Too many other products out there that work.
    In the P-F basket of deplorables.

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    I took the sight off the gun. The loc-tite holding the mount to the gun, and the sight to the mount was still solid. At lunch I went out at the side yard and checked the zero with the XS sights. I can only get out to 25 yards and I have to be careful shooting past the kiddo's swing set, but I sent 6 rounds into a 2" orange paster, so it was definitely the Vortex.

    ETA: The Vortex was an attempt to answer the question "do I want a red dot on a lever gun," with the idea that if I liked it, I'd put better sight on Later™. I did good with the 1st question, but have been procrastinating on the new sight. I do think I want an enclosed emitter sight, with a big dial instead of little press buttons. I also want one with some kind of shake awake feature, or one with enough battery life that I can just leave it turned on, and change the battery twice a year.
    Last edited by Lester Polfus; 09-21-2022 at 03:49 PM.
    I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.

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