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I don't think the SIRT is even goodish as a dry fire trainer, personally. The trigger on mine was not even close to a simulator for any Glock trigger I've ever felt. The grip was Glock-ish, but didn't really match the G17, IMHO.
But, like Cecil said, I used the ever-loving dog poop out of mine while demonstrating on the range; teaching tactics indoors; doing defensive tactics with retention/takeways, pretty much anything that involved pointing a pistol-ish item at people. A blue gun does just as well, but doesn't allow trigger manipulation at all, and doesn't allow you to demonstrate, visibly and easily, what it means to "laser" someone or something you don't want to.
I'm not sure I understand, AFAIK, the IR requires something to read the strike, in my case an IR camera, and then something to display/record the hits, in my case the LASR Classic software.
The targets that come with the CoolFire system come with the visible laser, not the IR. CoolFire does sell targets that react to the IR laser, but IMO they are pricey:
This reactive target stand is $99 for one or $315 for five:
https://coolfiretrainer.com/asccusto...art=0&recNum=0
This one is the pretty well-known LASERPET which sells for $115 each:
https://coolfiretrainer.com/asccusto...art=0&recNum=1
I use Ben Stoeger Dry-Fire Kits as well as targets I print off on the printer and have the copy play run off on heavy paper.
For Action Pistol: https://benstoegerproshop.com/scaled...pers-and-dots/
For USPSA: https://benstoegerproshop.com/scaled...pers-and-dots/
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Another single anecdote. Shortly after the SIRT came out I gifted one to my brother in law who is a member of a unique police unit where they spend countless hours together waiting for some excitement.
His department is notoriously short on practice and training time with their weapons.
They spent a lot of time with the SIRT over about a 4 month period doing unstructured practice while shooting the breeze and hanging out as groups of guys tend to do.
On their next qualification the team dramatically improved their scores with each member reaching a personal best and the team scoring what may to be the highest of any team in the units history.
The guys carry a mix of pistols from heavy steel DAO to striker guns. I had the factory specially set the trigger as heavy as mechanically possible although there was no science behind that choice.
It may be that those of us who maintain a practice level closer to our personal peak performance need more exact replicas of our training gear but for most people I think I’m with the “all trigger presses are valuable” side.
That was a great anecdote, thanks for sharing!
I’ll make a qualification about peak performance and trigger presses and replicas of training gear that might be helpful.
As a contextual “this is how I know what I know”: I’m a CO GM in USPSA and GM level in PCC and working on revolver.
1. I want exact replicas of training gear for dry practice mainly for the non shooting things: draw, reloads, transitions… but trigger press fidelity is not important. Many high level shooters don’t even pull the trigger when practicing (I do for the strength training).
2. Agree with “all trigger presses are valuable.”
What you wound up doing for them was trigger finger weight training and isolation. It’s something that’s very important and something I do with heavy DA revolvers even when I’m shooting 1# SA short reset triggers in competition.
Strength and speed in trigger press are proportional. Working revolvers helps my PCC triggering if that makes sense.
It’s the reason I recommend people work weak hand dry with revolvers to build strength.
Kudos to you for helping them train efficiently. It often doesn’t take more time out of the day, just better use of down time.
@TGS when I started dry firing in 2019, the only change to my life was that I cut out watching television and movies. That’s it. No extra commitment needed and I spent / spend 20-40 min a day handling firearms. It was a straight swap for mindless television.
Last edited by JCN; 02-16-2022 at 08:30 AM.
Context. Read EPF’s anecdote above.
He gifted a LEO squad a training tool and with no structured practice and no extra time except during down time, they got better.
And your assumption about my training below.
So contextually, just like the anecdote above. No commitment above what they were doing before and they improved a lot.
For me, I only spend 20-40 min a day handling guns and it was a direct swap for television watching.
You can get a shit ton done in a short period of time and it doesn’t have to be all-encompassing.