New thread idea? "$PFer buys stupid stuff, wins stupid prizes".Originally Posted by awp_101
Chris
New thread idea? "$PFer buys stupid stuff, wins stupid prizes".
Chris
I'm curious. So with this gun, you must fire two shots with each activation of the trigger? What is the time between the first and second shot assuming a normal trigger pull and release of trigger?
The switch on the slide is the key.
In one mode, it's a standard, press to fire, release, no different.
In 'binary' mode, fires on both pull and release. ETA: Second shot is dependent upon your trigger return spring, but it's no slower than a normal trigger reset.
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I was just talking with a fellow P-F'er about full auto fun. We both commented, it's fun to shoot full auto, but you wouldn't use it in a defensive scenario for a variety of reasons. But basically machine guns are for turning money into noise as quickly as possible. If you've ever spent money making horsepower, same idea different mode.
I really don't think you should view a binary trigger as anything besides a fun toy. I'd challenge P-F'ers to go look around their homes and come back and honestly tell me they haven't spent more money on things that are as useless and frivolous as a binary Glock trigger. I'm willing to bet to the person, none of us can succeed in that endeavor.
I know I can't. I'm looking across my living room right now and see a big screen television, a Playstation, two shelves FULL of books, antique and collectible toys, a handbuilt stereo, a mid-century modern chair I don't use often, and a rowing machine (which I do use, but is not a strict necessity).
Decadence and excess is definitionally American. Embrace it, love it, own it.
My thoughts are there were guns that fired full auto bursts, the rationale being that the cyclic rate was so fast that the gun did not move off target from recoil and you would get three hits on the enemy with small dispersion. With this gadget, or similar, is there enough time for the target to have significant movement and the gun also moves off target from the recoil. That can cause a round to go where you don't want. Of course, that depends on the time and why I asked.
Now to your other point, we have the exercise gear in the basement but we have lots of books. Will I ever read them again. maybe. I have that great book of mathematical tables from my grad days. Will I ever need that? Maybe if civilization falls and we have no Internet or computers with functions, I can wander from town to town - Get your trig functions, here, need a F table?
The second shot is on the release. How fast you release will depend on how much recoil will effect your next shot. I don't think you can release fast enough to beat the recoil but you probably can do it slow enough to wait out the recoil. You know when you hear or feel the trigger reset? Pretend that's the second shot. Can you beat the recoil to the reset?
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I don't see the use for this, then. Is there one besides a gadget?
Rote memory will be a steep curve on this one. How many times have y'all walked into a room during a power failure and turned the light on..........well, at least gone through the motion. And now one has to realize that the pistol will fire when you take your finger OFF the trigger. To each their own I guess. Just isn't for me.
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Same use as a rollercoaster. Binary triggers, forced reset riggers and full auto are, as RevolverRob stated, fun ways to turn money into noise. The kids find the binary trigger particularly entertaining! Firing a long burst of subsonic 22 LR from a suppressed AR at a rock 200 yards away never fails to send myself and a good buddy into gales of laughter. Clack! Clack! Clack!...... Plop! Plop! Plop! Gigglegigglegiggle! "My turn!"
I don't think anyone could fire a Glock with a binary trigger fast enough to fire two bullets close to enough to each other to beat the recoil. A full auto Glock has a terrific rate of fire, but the muzzle is well on its way to the sky before the second bullet can exit the muzzle- at least that's true in my hands!
(The HK G11 had a two round burst mode that was supposed to cycle at a rate of fire quick enough to send two bullets downrange before the recoil disturbed the muzzle.)
The rate of fire is as fast as the mechanism will allow and as slow as the shooter desires. Press the trigger to fire the first round and pin it until you want to fire the second on the release. Learning how to use it safely takes less than a magazine. Been shooting binary triggers for years and never had a mishap other than a dead trigger when the finger got out of sync with the system.
I wouldn't use it or recommend it for duty, defense or any kind of serious use. For Entertainment Purposes Only.
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