9mm and .38 chrono work

[Joe Mac]

01/16/22
42 degrees, fog
Shooting Chrony F-1 @10'

G19 gen5:

Norma 124 FMJ (5 shots)
High 1065
Low 1026
Avg 1048
ES 39
SD 15

Winchester NATO 124 FMJ (5 shots)
High 1159
Low 1122
Avg 1139
ES 37
SD 16


S&W 442-1:

Federal Hydra-Shok Deep 130 +P (10 shots)
High 851
Low 817
Avg 835
ES 34
SD 13

Federal American Eagle 130 FMJ (5 shots)
High 825
Low 739
Avg 793
ES 86
SD 40

Norma 158 FMJ-TC (5 shots)
High 748
Low 712
Avg 737
ES 36
SD 16

[Shades]

01/16/22
42 degrees, fog
Shooting Chrony F-1 @10'

G19 gen5:

Norma 124 FMJ (5 shots)
High 1065
Low 1026
Avg 1048
ES 39
SD 15

Winchester NATO 124 FMJ (5 shots)
High 1159
Low 1122
Avg 1139
ES 37
SD 16


S&W 442-1:

Federal Hydra-Shok Deep 130 +P (10 shots)
High 851
Low 817
Avg 835
ES 34
SD 13

Federal American Eagle 130 FMJ (5 shots)
High 825
Low 739
Avg 793
ES 86
SD 40

Norma 158 FMJ-TC (5 shots)
High 748
Low 712
Avg 737
ES 36
SD 16

Thanks for this. I have both the Win NATO and the Fed AE in quantity, as well as a G19 and a 642. Nice to know what that ammo's doing out of those launchers. Cheers!

[the Schwartz]

01/16/22
42 degrees, fog
Shooting Chrony F-1 @10'

G19 gen5:

Norma 124 FMJ (5 shots)
High 1065
Low 1026
Avg 1048
ES 39
SD 15

Winchester NATO 124 FMJ (5 shots)
High 1159
Low 1122
Avg 1139
ES 37
SD 16


S&W 442-1:

Federal Hydra-Shok Deep 130 +P (10 shots)
High 851
Low 817
Avg 835
ES 34
SD 13

Federal American Eagle 130 FMJ (5 shots)
High 825
Low 739
Avg 793
ES 86
SD 40

Norma 158 FMJ-TC (5 shots)
High 748
Low 712
Avg 737
ES 36
SD 16

Thanks for the chrono data. Probably going to go to a G19.3 in the next few weeks as my new "primary'' CC so knowing what ball ammo does from it is great.


Is the Winchester 9mm 124-grain FMJ that you tested in your 19.5 the WINUSA9MM or the Q4318 load?

[Joe Mac]

Is the Winchester 9mm 124-grain FMJ that you tested in your 19.5 the WINUSA9MM or the Q4318 load?

It's the Q4318 -- my favorite practice ammo. Not as warm as carry ammo, but close enough that I don't get too complacent!

[the Schwartz]

It's the Q4318 -- my favorite practice ammo. Not as warm as carry ammo, but close enough that I don't get too complacent!

Thanks. I've got cases of the Q-load for training/practice.

Like you, I got some pretty sedate performance out the Norma 124-grain FMJ in my Glock 17...average was about 1,095 fps with an SD of 18 even though they claim a muzzle velocity of 1,181 fps.

Only got three boxes, sent it all down-range quite some time ago. I'll be sticking with the 'Q' load for the time being.

[Joe Mac]

Thanks. I've got cases of the Q-load for training/practice.

I'm down to just two cases and change -- I stacked it deep when it was 20 cents/rd. I've been waiting for the price to come down a bit more, but can only wait so long! Might have to buy again at the current 35-40 cents.

[revolvergeek]

Excellent! Thanks for this. I had previously ordered some of that Norma 9mm and .38 spl and picked up some .38 spl HS Deep last week. I have been carrying that Norma .38 in little 4 round speed strips for j- frame reloads because it seemed pretty warm, has a decent meplat and reloads easier than WC or SWC ammo.

[Joe Mac]

Excellent! Thanks for this. I had previously ordered some of that Norma 9mm and .38 spl and picked up some .38 spl HS Deep last week. I have been carrying that Norma .38 in little 4 round speed strips for j- frame reloads because it seemed pretty warm, has a decent meplat and reloads easier than WC or SWC ammo.

You're very welcome.. I found the HS Deep to be fairly mild (and accurate) in the Airweight J, comparable to the 110+P Hornady CD I typically carry in it.

[revolvergeek]

That is good to hear. I am very eager to see some independent proper gel tests on the HS Deep. That could be a really interesting option for .380 and .38 SPL.