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  1. #191
    Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.

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    Yes. I like that site, I use it often.

    You are not fundamentally understanding what a “footprint” means.

    It’s not literally a footprint where the entire geometry is the same.

    Like I said before, the RMS and RMSc have the same “footprint” but the width is not identical.

    The same as the EPS and EPS carry.

    Maybe you can call someone to explain it to you?

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    Even though he describes footprint as an actual footprint on his site, he uses footprint and mounting standard interchangeably which in conventional descriptions is how it is used.

    The RMS and RMSc have the same mounting standard.

    Their technical base dimensions are different.

    The EPS and EPS carry have the same mounting standard.

    But their technical base dimensions are different.

    He also clarifies:

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    It’s a case of knowing what you’re talking about rather than ASSuming.

    If someone says “hey the EPS and EPS carry have the same footprint…” but one is clearly wider than the other, then you can safely assume that that person meant “mounting standard” and not physical footprint unless they’re magicians of the space and time continuum who can magically fit a larger window on the same width optic lol. How does that work?

    It’s a matter of understanding rather than parroting.
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    If I say “these have the same footprint.”

    Of course I mean mounting standard or footprint*.

    The fact remains that regardless of your terminology, they’re not the same width.

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    I don’t think a lot of people (besides me) own a bunch of non c-sized RMS.

    People are used to the Holosun k but don’t realize that Shield has been making a wider optic with the same mounting standard for years for use on Glocks and the like.

    I have a full width SMS mounted on an MOS plate @Clusterfrack if that helps you get an idea.

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    Hoping keep this thread on EPS details… there’s no need for a spat about who knows what about footprints. That tends to discourage participation, and we don’t need that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Anyone know the width of the EPS carry vs. EPS? I’m considering for a G26.
    In case it helps, this is an industry review with some window dimensions:

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    //www.shootingillustrated.com/content/first-look-holosun-eps-and-eps-carry-pistol-optics/

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    Glock 19 Slide width: 1.001”
    CZ P-07 Slide width: 1.065”

    EPS: Width 1.19". Window Size 0.63x0.91"
    EPS Carry: Width 1.07. Window Size 0.58x0.77"

    The EPS Carry has virtually the same window height, but gives up 15% in window width.

    Both use the 'Holosun “K” series footprint'.
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    Just installed a 6moa carry on brand new G43X MOS. The included shim/plate works quite well, but I had to trim about 2-3 threads off the supplied screw on the extractor side.
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    Outside my lane:

    Based on my discussion with a 1100+ person police dept armorer, I almost wonder if taking 3 threads off and/or tapering the extractor side screw should be a starting point of certain screws as a best practice?
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