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    The regular Alpha flight jacket (not the warm weather TT version), which you mentioned already having, is rated 25-40 degrees on it's own.

    If you want to get fancy a merino shirt or a nice sweater would be good.

    But honestly a regular shirt and sweater/hoodie with an Alpha bomber is probably just fine.
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    For the casual or the super serious cold weather uses, I can’t say enough good things about how amazing turtlefur brand hats and neck gaiters are!

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    double post
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    Get a knit beanie that you like. I have a Marmot with a fleece band stitched to the inside that is superb. I also have an FMF (powersports exhaust) logowear beanie that I must've picked up on some deep discount years ago. It has proven remarkably competent this winter, with impressive wicking capabilities. I watched the precipitation change from rain to snow on Christmas morning, and it did great all week. I have less hair than you, but in relevant conditions (still well above freezing), I'd rather have a t-shirt and a beanie than a jacket and nothing on my head.

    I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but when I lived near mountains and spent extended time outdoors in snow, I really liked silk long johns as a base layer. Even better than wool. But I don't bother unless I plan to be outdoors (or possibly outdoors) in snow all day.

    I'm good down to the mid 30s as long as I'm active and it's a relatively dry cold with just an insulated Dickies "Eisenhower" jacket. If I'm going to be less active or out for a longer period of time, I do more.

    My basic building block is a "down sweater," basically a lightweight down jacket. Has a big, tall collar that does the job of a scarf really well. It weighs almost nothing and packs down to about the size of a softball if you need to do that. Amazingly warm. I picked it up on an end of season clearance for about $50 at the local REI nearly a decade ago. Over that, depending on conditions (rain, snow, wind, etc., I have an REI brand Gore-Tex shell that I bought in 1996 and has been almost everywhere with me. Still going strong, although if I used it more or harder, I probably would have killed it and replaced it with something tougher. If needed, I'll add a first underlayer, something like a thin fleece. With that, I can be outside and not super active for a couple hours down to about 20. If I'm active, I might sweat even at that temp.

    I haven't had any reason to be out much colder than that in recent years, as the (work) equipment I use starts having issues. Replacing the Gore-Tex shell with a decent quality winter parka gets me down to zero or so. At that point, you need to pay attention to exposed skin. I took my usual 40-minute walk last February when it was about 6 here for a couple days, and I think I damaged the skin on my lip a little bit. Some kind of wind protection would have been good. That's when I revived this thread. I still "need" to do something there, although I haven't actually "needed" to yet.

    Since you're a Milwaukee guy, you might at least check out their line of M12 heated gear.
    Best advice ever.

    Accessories - Hat, gloves. Layers - long johns, sweater/light fleece (office friendly clothing), down sweater (winter coat), goretex shell (Florida rain jacket). Worn all together, its warm. If its too warm, you can take one layer off. You might be able to use the shell and sweater in Florida later.

    For the past 7 years, my winter wear is a Patagonia Down Sweater with an Arcteryx Beta AR over it.

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    Consider buying from REI. They have a generous 1 year return policy, esp if it's something that you end up not needing. They even accept used stuff. They also sell returns at a discount.

    If business casual, I like, and used J Crew 770 flannel lined pants

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    @rob_s

    Here's a good stack of gear for you. Cost effective, import, quality. I use it in daily wear and doing consequential things.

    Baselayers, choose primus or celeris by your cold tolerance or duration outside. I've worn my celeris on cool nights in FL/TX/etc, so you could reuse.
    https://beyondclothing.com/collections/baselayers

    Jackets, recommend a prima lochi or aptus. Supplies for prima lochi may be limited, you may need to go with the ultra lochi (newer version). Aptus has a lining.
    https://beyondclothing.com/products/...31782858489918
    https://beyondclothing.com/products/...31782866354238

    I usually start with a wool or tech tee, then add those. For reference, when I wear a tee, celeris mid, and an aptus I am GTG at and a bit below zero.

    Pants, wear what you like. If you want a recommendation:
    Unlined softshell, DWR and wind resist: https://beyondclothing.com/products/...32285327458366
    Lined softshell, same: https://beyondclothing.com/products/...32203138924606

    Combine with the baselayers above.

    Good footwear, good socks, wool beanie, good gloves. You're set.

    I can go further down this rabbit hole as you wish. The US made side is also very GTG, more expensive, I can say more, but may not meet juice:squeeze for you.
    Springing off of this to ask a larger question from the group, as others have mentioned "systems".

    Would it be reasonable to assume that this "level 6" in a size large
    https://beyondclothing.com/products/...39398226853950

    Would fit over this "level 5" in a size large?
    https://beyondclothing.com/products/...31782886965310

    and that each would be capable of being used standalone as-needed?

    ETA:
    not saying I want to shell out $450 in jackets, just using this as an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Springing off of this to ask a larger question from the group, as others have mentioned "systems".

    Would it be reasonable to assume that this "level 6" in a size large
    https://beyondclothing.com/products/...39398226853950

    Would fit over this "level 5" in a size large?
    https://beyondclothing.com/products/...31782886965310

    and that each would be capable of being used standalone as-needed?

    ETA:
    not saying I want to shell out $450 in jackets, just using this as an example.
    Yes, those work together well. In that example though, the Testa is already DWR and windproof, you'd throw the ARX over it if you needed both an insulator with maximum dry or for sustained rain.
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    Rob S- A primer from Beyond re how their layers work

    https://beyondclothing.com/pages/system-builder

    While the answer to your question is yes ish, If I needed to cut wind/rain with that L6 jacket, I would be far more likely to put it over some kind of insulated puffy which is likely to be far warmer and lighter that your linked i.e. this reversible L3 layer.
    https://beyondclothing.com/collectio...39633443323966

    Edited to add-if you like the color- this far exceeds the intersection of quality/value/performance, particularly if you thrown in a merino base layer and/or a 1/4 zip fleece. 109.00 for the puffy/waterproof/windproof shell combo

    https://www.sierra.com/the-north-fac...Fmen~d~5284%2F
    Last edited by vcdgrips; 01-26-2022 at 05:29 PM.
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    No one has recommended PataGucci, yet? Most people around here, SF Bay Area, wear tons of Patagonia gear to the snow.

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