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    P357HST1S 357 Magnum 154gr 1340fps from a 4in barrel.

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    http://https://www.federalpremium.co...website_sm.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs View Post
    I'm really interested in any modern upgrade to .357 Magnum ammo. Would like to see some correctly done, independent testing of it. I have access to some Texas whitetails that should be impressed with it.
    What would you like to see? A full power load or more like a .357 - like the golden sabers, GD SB, and the Winchester pdx1?

    Do you want it to stay inside the 12-18" or do you want a little more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DISCO View Post
    P357HST1S 357 Magnum 154gr 1340fps from a 4in barrel.

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    http://https://www.federalpremium.co...website_sm.pdf
    Another sloppy typo, I believe. The velocity chart goes on to list speed at 25 and 50 yards as 1127 and 999, incongruous with a MV of 1340 (and a bizarrely precipitous drop between 25 and 50). No bullet of similar weight sheds velocity that fast.

    Of course, the listed energies are based on this impossible progression, so...come on, Federal. Edit your crap more carefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FNFAN View Post
    I’ve ordered from Miwall twice recently and was impressed with their speed of shipping the order. FWIW
    I've gotten our organizational ammunition for the past 2 years from Miwall; they're excellent to deal with, flexible, and very fast to ship. Excellent accountability and shipment tracking too.

    Best, Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    I think it @ 1250fps is the sweet spot for 158...154.

    I'd like to see it at minimum of 18" minimum for all barriers.
    I agree that 1250 fps from a 4" barrel revolver would be very useful for both hunting and self defense.
    The recoil/blast and POA/POI could closely match typical factory158 grain practice ammo.
    I would be happy enough with great expansion and 16-18 inches of penetration in FBI testing.
    Sadly, one of the best deep penetrators appears to be discontinued.

    From DocGKR

    The best modern .357 Mag loading we have tested has been the Winchester 180 gr Partition Gold (S357P):



    .357 Mag Win 180 gr Partition Gold (S357P) from S&W 686 4”

    BG: vel=1075, pen=18.1”, RD=.57”, RW=171.1gr

    4 layer denim: vel=1090 f/s, pen=20+”, RD=0.53, RW=175.6gr

    auto windshield: vel=1072, pen=20+”, RD=0.39, RW=178.0gr

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    @Velo Dog - Where did you get that from, and did he mention any other .357 Mag loads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck38 View Post
    @Velo Dog - Where did you get that from, and did he mention any other .357 Mag loads?
    https://www.mp-pistol.com/threads/do...uestion.11919/

    For information on a load like the Winchester 125 gr. PDX1 Defender in 357 Magnum, it might be worth looking at the available numbers for Winchester's 125 gr. Ranger Bonded in 357 SIG. Although results wouldn't necessarily be identical, one could get a rough estimate of potential performance.

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    Winchester 145 gr. Silvertip went 12.85 and 15.9 inches in autoglass testing.

    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....ilvertip/page3

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    Federal 158 grain Hydra-Shok @ 1183 fps penetrated 24.7" and expanded to 0.37" in bare gel; 34.50" and 0.46" after heavy clothing.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20130530.../357magnum.htm

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...bi-ammo-tests/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velo Dog View Post
    Federal 158 grain Hydra-Shok @ 1183 fps penetrated 24.7" and expanded to 0.37" in bare gel; 34.50" and 0.46" after heavy clothing.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20130530.../357magnum.htm

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    That's very useful IF your foes are attacking in líne...

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