Can NAVY SEALS Convince GREEN BERET to Switch to Sig Sauer -- Parts 1 and 2

[TGS]

Awesome. I recently read a post on another forum where a dude said he was a "designated and trained protective service officer

i.e. security guard.

[JHC]

Yep, you can’t fix a problem if you don’t know what the problem is.

Video, particularly slow motion video and software like coaches I are very useful in this regard.

In my experience video is not only helpful for me to spot problems but it’s very useful to be able to show the video to the shooter. I’ve had multiple instances where I have correctly spotted and or diagnosed a problem and the shooter refused to believe they were doing the particular action until they saw themselves doing it on video.

OMG some years back chasing PF burner times from the holster video caught me cheating the finger into the trigger guard on draws and reloads. Never would have believed it without the vid. Taught me well.

[YVK]

i.e. security guard.

Part of our qualification was at 50 yards. The only way to be accurate for head shots at 50 yards is by hand cocking the pistol. Consequently, I learned at the shoot schools to thumb cock the DA/SA handguns as I draw them

That's a quote. I asked to clarify if his quals included 50 yards head shots. Never got a reply.

[littlejerry]

I took a class some years ago with Bob Vogle. He's an amazing shooter, but (at least at the time) not a brilliant coach.

At the end of the class I asked him "were there any instructors or coaches you had that you thought were particularly helpful?". He looked at me with a sort of blank stare and said he couldn't really think of anyone.

So yeah, some people definitely have the gift.

[Kyle Reese]

Part of our qualification was at 50 yards. The only way to be accurate for head shots at 50 yards is by hand cocking the pistol. Consequently, I learned at the shoot schools to thumb cock the DA/SA handguns as I draw them

That's a quote. I asked to clarify if his quals included 50 yards head shots. Never got a reply.

I’d love to get the deets on this particular “qualification” or the “shoot schools” that this individual has attended.

Any current defensive pistol instructor that’s teaching people to thumb cock the hammer on a DA/SA handgun during the draw is either lazy/incompetent or doesn’t know how to run or teach the DA trigger press. Or both. Probably both.


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[YVK]

I’d love to get the deets on this particular “qualification” or the “shoot schools” that this individual has attended.

Any current defensive pistol instructor that’s teaching people to thumb cock the hammer on a DA/SA handgun during the draw is either lazy/incompetent or doesn’t know how to run or teach the DA trigger press. Or both. Probably both.


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He claimed an extensive mil and le career. I didn't care to push any further, didn't think it was worth my time.

[HCM]

I’d love to get the deets on this particular “qualification” or the “shoot schools” that this individual has attended.

Any current defensive pistol instructor that’s teaching people to thumb cock the hammer on a DA/SA handgun during the draw is either lazy/incompetent or doesn’t know how to run or teach the DA trigger press. Or both. Probably both.


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I agree with you but didn’t Jeff Cooper at one time call DEA guns crunch and tickers an advocate shooting the first DA round into the dirt to get to the good trigger pull?

[Leroy Suggs]

crunchentickers

[Tensaw]

I agree with you but didn’t Jeff Cooper at one time call DEA guns crunch and tickers an advocate shooting the first DA round into the dirt to get to the good trigger pull?

Yeah, he did - something like that. Although I always read that as somewhere between tongue-in-cheek or some level of sarcasm - but I could be wrong.

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

Yeah, he did - something like that. Although I always read that as somewhere between tongue-in-cheek or some level of sarcasm - but I could be wrong.

I have on good authority he didn't really teach that but more of a disdain for the DA/SA. He believed that proper placement of the trigger finger for the double action yielded an incorrect placement for the single action follow ups. I don't know that he's entirely wrong as it's probably not ideal but there's no free lunch either way.