I guess you don't need a riot to do your shopping.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...rdstrom-store/
I guess you don't need a riot to do your shopping.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...rdstrom-store/
In the P-F basket of deplorables.
That's a quite wealthy bedroom community about 20 minutes east of Oakland, a very small town with its commercial areas all very close to the freeway.
I saw a smash and grab of a car on a well-lit street in front of a restaurant in plain view of a bunch of people just last month when I was in Walnut Creek for work.
Good and hard.
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Not another dime.
Some more Christmas shopping in the Bay area.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...-union-square/
In the P-F basket of deplorables.
So the standing theory here is that these are organized, premeditated, events of up to 80 people?
Do any of them want jobs? I can’t find 8 people with degrees and 20 years experience each that are willing to pull in a single direction…
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Disgusting…
@AMC I’d love to hear more about your take on this. I saw the post you made in the Phoenix LEO Resignation thread about what your agency is doing.
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Organized crime takes on a new look. Some people probably put 2 and 2 together and concluded that if the police can't or won't handle a riot (lots of people committing crimes) then smash and grab in a large group would be easy. Two people arrested out of 80? Those look like pretty good odds for some more of this type of organized crime.
In the P-F basket of deplorables.
These organized rings have been operating/escalating in the SF Bay Area for years. Started with groups of girls (locally the rings were known as "Rainbow Girls" for the colorful dress/hairstyles) bum rushing places like Victoria's Secret, Baby Gap, etc. Moved on to higher end stores, and started including the baby daddy's.
The auto burglary problem in this area is primarily driven by highly organized gangs, who are often armed. They will often engage in "robberies of opportunity" if a victim presents themselves. I think these organized theft rings are an outgrowth of that, coupled with lack of enforcement/prosecution. These guys make risk/reward calculations. They moved from primarily street robberies to auto burglary because the risk of arrest/prison was significantly less. This is just an evolution of that mindset, with probably some crossover of the participants.
My thinking, pessimistic though it it, is that retail response will be hardening or outright closing stores....which will again redirect these folks. I personally think we'll eventually see these platoon sized elements targeting high income residential areas. Imagine the streets being blocked to LE response as squads of dudes kick in doors in Blackhawk or Atherton or some other Richie Rich neighborhoods, looking for jewelry, cash and such. Much less likely to encounter armed homeowners too. Think it can't happen? Well.....like I said. I'm more pessimistic.
plus, what's the real-world "cost" of being busted? At worst, felony arrest, misdemeanor charge, no contest, 12 month probation cut down to 6...
I took two sociology classes in college. The first was Soc 101 (or equivalent thereof) an the other was called "Deviance" where the book Seductions of Crime by Jack Katz was pretty much the textbook. As a child deviant, the latter class and required reading actually went a long way towards "correcting" me. The other takeaway was that once you've really immersed yourself in that lifestyle, you start to view the world, and your personal risk/rewards therein, much differently.
Morals aside, of course.
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That is a worrisome possibility. Pretty scary thought actually. I’ve never been to the Bay Area so I’m not familiar with the neighborhoods you mentioned. Kicking in doors in the nicer neighborhoods in Albuquerque would still get you a decent chance of finding bullets coming your way but I can imagine that’s not the case for the nicer neighborhoods of the Bay Area.
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