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    Albuquerque NM. FBI bust leads to arrest of gang members who were in possession of what look like at least 3 sets of concealable soft armor armor; also of note an OG Steyr Aug.

    In the video @1:46

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    From local news site. Soft body armor and a box of probably Meth pipes based on the area

    https://www.al.com/news/2023/08/shoo...mo-seized.html

    Shooting suspect in custody after 2-hour standoff at Tarrant home; guns, ammo seized

    Chief Wendell Major said officers, along with the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office SWAT team, responded to the home.

    The suspect, whose name has not been released pending formal charges, barricaded himself inside the residence for about two hours. He was taken into custody about 10:30 a.m.
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    LA County Deputies Shoot Suspect Who Decided to Randomly Fire His Rifle Throughout a Neighborhood


    Diamond Bar, California — On June 19, 2023, at 11:36 a.m., Walnut Station deputies responded to the 2900 block of Crooked Creek Drive, Diamond Bar, regarding a call of a male in the street firing a rifle. The male was later identified as 30-year-old Benjamin Chin. Chin was wearing a ballistic vest and was armed with a rifle. Responding deputies arrived on scene and utilized their patrol vehicle’s public announcement system (P.A.) to order Chin to drop his weapon. Chin ignored their commands and continued to walk east on Crooked Creek Road towards Diamond Bar Boulevard. Deputies followed Chin at a distance and continued making P.A. announcements, pleading for Chin to drop his weapon. Chin walked into oncoming traffic in the 3000 block of Diamond Bar Boulevard, causing a vehicle to come to a complete stop.

    Responding deputies exited their patrol vehicles and continued to give Chin verbal commands to drop his weapon. Chin refused their orders and walked towards the driver of the stopped vehicle, while holding his rifle in the low-ready position, at which time a deputy involved-shooting occurred. Chin was struck by gunfire and fell to the ground. The deputies rendered medical aid until the arrival of Los Angeles County Fire Department paramedics. Chin was transported to a local hospital where he was pronounced deceased. It was later determined that Chin fired his rifle, stabbed his mother, and pointed his rifle at a pedestrian. Chin’s mother was treated for a stab wound. No other persons were injured during this incident. A loaded rifle, loaded rifle magazines, expended .223 caliber shell casings and body armor were recovered at the scene.

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    Heavily armed gunman in body armor kills 5 in Philadelphia


    A heavily armed gunman wearing a bulletproof vest shot and killed five people in Philadelphia. Two children, including a toddler, were injured. Police were able to apprehend the suspect but investigators currently do not have a motive in the shooting. NBC’s George Solis reports for TODAY.

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    This raises the question, if a submachine gun in 9mm is barely adequate to deal with body armor, and the police system going back to the 9mm in droves..

    Is the 9mm even going to matter anymore on a street level? Or was elmer Keith correct with the 41 magnum for a duty gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquemada View Post
    This raises the question, if a submachine gun in 9mm is barely adequate to deal with body armor, and the police system going back to the 9mm in droves..

    Is the 9mm even going to matter anymore on a street level? Or was elmer Keith correct with the 41 magnum for a duty gun?
    Why would .41 Magnum be any different? Level II is specced to defeat .357 Magnum (158 gr at 1430 FPS), while Level IIIa is specced to defeat .44 Magnum (240 gr at 1340 FPS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquemada View Post
    This raises the question, if a submachine gun in 9mm is barely adequate to deal with body armor, and the police system going back to the 9mm in droves..

    Is the 9mm even going to matter anymore on a street level? Or was elmer Keith correct with the 41 magnum for a duty gun?


    I'm finding the quality of your posts on this forum so far to be lacking, and this example is no different. Your response demonstrates you haven't read any of the prior discussion in this thread, nor can you even apply basic problem solving to the issue at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquemada View Post
    This raises the question, if a submachine gun in 9mm is barely adequate to deal with body armor, and the police system going back to the 9mm in droves..

    Is the 9mm even going to matter anymore on a street level? Or was elmer Keith correct with the 41 magnum for a duty gun?
    No readily accessible/available handgun ammunition will penetrate soft body armor. That’s the point of soft body armor. You’re going to have to shoot at unarmored body parts or move to centerfire rifle calibers if you’re concerned about adversaries wearing soft armor. Most random street criminals are also not wearing body armor. An idea that a standard handgun caliber isn’t “even going to matter anymore on a street level” is nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballoflaco View Post
    From local news site. Soft body armor and a box of probably Meth pipes based on the area

    https://www.al.com/news/2023/08/shoo...mo-seized.html

    Shooting suspect in custody after 2-hour standoff at Tarrant home; guns, ammo seized



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    Rest easy though. The AR is from during the 94 "Assault Weapons Ban" and lacks a collapsible stock and muzzle device. It's therefore been rendered safe. lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquemada View Post
    This raises the question, if a submachine gun in 9mm is barely adequate to deal with body armor, and the police system going back to the 9mm in droves..

    Is the 9mm even going to matter anymore on a street level? Or was elmer Keith correct with the 41 magnum for a duty gun?
    Soft body armor is made to stop pistol caliber rounds.

    Pistol calibers are pistol calibers whether 9mm out of a pistol or SMG or magnum revolver rounds.

    The answer to suspects with soft body armor is rifles or shooting threats in areas covered by armor.

    Police using .41 mags with magnum ammo was a non starter even back in the revolver days. At that time they carried a .41 “police load” (think .41 special) that was equivalent to modern 40 S&W and was a .41 mag in name only.

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