Phoenix Police Radio Resignation

[AMC]

To come back to the thread topic of staffing concerns, effective this morning until further notice, every district station in our department will be detailing all plainothes officers, all 1100-2100 watch officers, and half of all midnight watch officers from all district stations to Downtown Command, to deal with the totally out of control retail piracy rings roving the Bay Area in platoon to Battalion strength. Also detailing every officer on our Specialist Team (our Countersniper/Perimeter containment element of SOG) to this area. To deal with shortages in patrol resulting from this, everyone at every station on every watch can expect to be held over 4 hrs every day until further notice.

Meanwhile, there were 10 shooting resulting in 4 homicides in the city's southeast Bayview district last week. Not a peep out of the media or our politicians. Tell me what lives matter again? I'm so confused. Not gonna make it to June.....

[BehindBlueI's]

40 is not too old....

Age limits in LE are often the result of actuarial charts at the pension board, not a real belief that a person of that age can't do the job. After all, you're expected to be at least 40 years old at some point in your career. The concern is you'll work fewer years, are more likely to be injured, and will be a burden on the pension system when you blow out your middle aged knee in year 3 in a foot pursuit.

That said, many states and departments do not have a maximum recruit age. Kentucky does not, or at least they didn't.

[TGS]

To come back to the thread topic of staffing concerns, effective this morning until further notice, every district station in our department will be detailing all plainothes officers, all 1100-2100 watch officers, and half of all midnight watch officers from all district stations to Downtown Command, to deal with the totally out of control retail piracy rings roving the Bay Area in platoon to Battalion strength. Also detailing every officer on our Specialist Team (our Countersniper/Perimeter containment element of SOG) to this area. To deal with shortages in patrol resulting from this, everyone at every station on every watch can expect to be held over 4 hrs every day until further notice.

Meanwhile, there were 10 shooting resulting in 4 homicides in the city's southeast Bayview district last week. Not a peep out of the media or our politicians. Tell me what lives matter again? I'm so confused. Not gonna make it to June.....

What's the point of detailing more officers to the area if you're not allowed to arrest them for the theft anyway?

[AMC]

What's the point of detailing more officers to the area if you're not allowed to arrest them for the theft anyway?

"High Visibility Police presence will serve as a deterrent to..."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm sorry. I can't even type it with a straight face.

[Hambo]

Age limits in LE are often the result of actuarial charts at the pension board, not a real belief that a person of that age can't do the job. After all, you're expected to be at least 40 years old at some point in your career. The concern is you'll work fewer years, are more likely to be injured, and will be a burden on the pension system when you blow out your middle aged knee in year 3 in a foot pursuit.

That said, many states and departments do not have a maximum recruit age. Kentucky does not, or at least they didn't.

A lot of cities, including mine, had maximum age limits for new hires because of the reasons you stated. The pension board hoped you reached retirement age, then died before formally retiring. In such a case, your spouse got a really shitty survivor benefit instead of what you would have gotten. The bonus for the officer was that you were worth more alive than dead to your spouse.

[jnc36rcpd]

"High Visibility Police presence will serve as a deterrent to..."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm sorry. I can't even type it with a straight face.

AMC, what is the expectation if the high visibility officers encounter a misdemeanor or felony shoplift?

My former department will not really enforce trespass laws. It will certainly not issue trespass orders for businesses because they might be racist.

Recently, an allied agency had complaints from its officers that my former agency would not engage in confrontations unless it was life or death. For the allied agency, they can handle it (hopefully) by ensuring more of their officers roll on joint responses. As a special police officer at a facility in my former jurisdiction (building guard with police powers on the grounds), I can easily imagine getting hurt or killed with no response from the agency I served four decades,

[Jeff22]

The agency I worked at for most of my career has 25 patrol positions authorized and a current strength of 15. Pay that is not competitive to our area and a Chief that has been just awful has just crushed the agency. The mood of the people still there is close to despair. It makes me sad.

The Agency I worked part time at for all of my career is riding high, with good pay, good equipment, and new Chief who is very training oriented, and a wonderful new facility to work from. They recently ran a hiring process to fill a vacancy and replace a guy retiring in January, and they couldn’t find anybody who could pass the background check, so they have to start all over.

[AMC]

@jnc36rcpd, the expectation is that officers "take appropriate enforcement action, consistent with department policy and training, keeping in mind 'proportionality'."

In reality, they prefer nobody take enforcement action, since that leads to conflict and use of force. Just take the report. Stenographers with guns.

[paherne]

AMC, what is the expectation if the high visibility officers encounter a misdemeanor or felony shoplift?

My former department will not really enforce trespass laws. It will certainly not issue trespass orders for businesses because they might be racist.

Recently, an allied agency had complaints from its officers that my former agency would not engage in confrontations unless it was life or death. For the allied agency, they can handle it (hopefully) by ensuring more of their officers roll on joint responses. As a special police officer at a facility in my former jurisdiction (building guard with police powers on the grounds), I can easily imagine getting hurt or killed with no response from the agency I served four decades,

The DA is prosecuting an officer for felony assault who responded to a possible kidnap/DV with a good RP, not anonymous, when the suspect began fighting and kicking one officer, the second officer used his baton to strike the resisting suspect. In that sort of climate, why would any cop do anything that might result in not only losing your job, your house and your freedom? Let's be entirely honest, cops are subject 80/20 rule, too. 80% of cops are on blue welfare, they'll take reports and direct traffic, take a position on the perimeter, etc. The 20% that hunt bad men have been disincentivized from doing so. This is the end result. Society suffers. And, the end result of defunding the police, BLM and all of the other stuff is that more black and brown young men are dying but no one GAS.

AMC is spot on about shootings in the Bayview. My daughter had a rough moment last week when one of her students gave the excuse for not doing her homework was that her brother was shot last night. No one cares about folks in that neighborhood until it's time to vote and the democratic/progressive crime family needs to continue their grift for another 4 years.

If SF were not in one of the most beautiful locations in the world, it would be Detroit. It's dead city walking, now, they just don't know it. Without tourism and the dollars it brings in, it will be a husk in a decade.

[Borderland]

@jnc36rcpd, the expectation is that officers "take appropriate enforcement action, consistent with department policy and training, keeping in mind 'proportionality'."

In reality, they prefer nobody take enforcement action, since that leads to conflict and use of force. Just take the report. Stenographers with guns.

The last sheriff of this county was in the mall when this happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Mall_shooting. He heard the gunfire but didn't engage the shooter. The reason, as he stated, was he didn't have a weapon. He just fled the scene like everyone else.

We elected a new sheriff. I hope the new guy goes about armed when he's off duty.