The gripe I hear most often about the LCP concerns the sights. If you have a grasp of soft target focus with a "silhouette" view of the sight picture, acceptable muzzle orientation isn't much of an issue ..... as long as there is decent ambient light available. My visual acuity has been in the toilet for over a decade, but I still managed to split a cardboard target in half at 3 yds on the second shot. My first shot (visible just below the good shot) just missed.
The path of least resistance will seldom get you where you need to be.
@41magfan Great post!
This is shooting the old TX CHL blue bottle protocol with a NAA 1 5/8 " Mini in 22 LR
3 yards – 20 rounds fired
7 yards – 20 rounds fired
15 yards – 10 rounds fired
The dots are to enhance the shot holes.
175 is passing. I note that I shot 249 or 250 with a Glock. Got cocky on one shot!
I also shot it with a NAA 22S - got about a 130 ish. Had a picture but it vanished into a couple of PCs of years of old.
For those wanting some Mousegun Drills - I see Clauder Werner is offering his two e-books on Concealed Carry Skills and Indoor Range Drills along with a target for $7.99 - https://tacticalprofessor.wordpress.com/ - It is all ebook format. Claude is one of the few people I know of, who has put a concerted effort into developing drills and skills for small guns that are easy to access and practice by the average person.
Because mouse guns are limited capacity and limited caliber - accuracy is more important. And unfortunately these guns can be hard to hit with. Which is why I like Claude's various drills which emphasize accuracy and shot placement with small caliber guns in recognition of these facts.
This is one of the big reasons I think sights on a mousegun are non-negotiable...Originally Posted by RevolverRob
I took at long look at the LCP Max yesterday ... Nice gun, actually.
Kahr p380 inbound --purchased from a kind P-F member at a very reasonable price. I've already ordered a holster and some parts that are supposed to improve this little gun, and will report back after testing. Parts list below:
DDS Pocket Shark holster
https://discretedefensesolutions.com...ocket-holster/
Tool steel striker
https://lakelinellc.com/shop/ultimat...r-380-pistols/
Steel striker guide
https://gallowayprecision.com/kahr/c...d-p380-pistols
Tractiongrips
https://gallowayprecision.com/tracti...d-p380-pistols
Lehigh XP 90g bullets for reliability testing
https://www.brownells.com/reloading/...49-224583.aspx
“There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
"You can never have too many knives." --Joe Ambercrombie
You’ll get a thousand different opinions and it’ll be a personal judgement.
When I played with the XP it went >20” in gel.
And looked like this in a melon (I know it’s not flesh).
Compared to an XTP
9mm Gold Dot above
10mm JHP above (Hornady maybe?)
Thanks for posting those videos. I've already settled on 90gr Underwood/Lehigh XP as my .380 defense load. It's what's in my LCP. Your tests are consistent with what I've read elsewhere. This load penetrates satisfactorily for defense use. As you showed, expansion is lacking. But, that's the tradeoff I'm willing to make.
“There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
"You can never have too many knives." --Joe Ambercrombie
A 9mm GDHP will kill a deer, right now, at close range when placed in the melon or spine. I haven’t shot one in the ribs or heart with one, but expect it will still work, but probably not quite as dramatically. It will kill a rabbit the same way with any kind of vitals hit, where a round nose .22 just puts a little pinprick hole and makes them sick. .22 used for hunting should be a fast HP or flat nose, and placed precisely, it will work. I’d rather use a centerfire, most of the time. For self defense, I pretty much feel the same way about the .22 as I do for hunting.
I load GDHP or HST in my 9mm GLOCKs. Airweight J gets FGMM wadcutters, because those don’t suck to shoot and kill game pretty well, too. Steel .38s get Winchester 130gr Ranger bonded because I bought a bunch a few years ago and haven’t seen a reason to change. .380 gets ball or Hornady JHP.
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