I went wild several years ago and owned a bunch of the little .380s. My favorites were the kahr, Taurus TCP believe it or not! I found a TCP
32 which is sweet!
Ruger supposedly working on .32 but the LCP II .22 came out about that same time so maybe that was it? I am with les, I love the little jetfires. 9 rounds FMJ, but SO concealable, you really forget it is there. I really wish Hornady would make a good .25 like a hard conical 35 grains with bit more velocity.
Reliability is not a concern with these guns. They are built to be shot a lot and carried a lot.Originally Posted by TheNewbie
They are heavy for their size. Since they are straight blowback, recoil is surprisingly uncomfortable. Accuracy is not easy to achieve with the tiny sights and heavy triggers.
In the early 2000’s, the .380 was probably the best pocket gun available. However, with other better options on the market, some improvements that were available when I carried mine might not be as readily available today.
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They are definitely better than a sharp stick or harsh words, and being super small, have some potential to be available when other things may not, or be overlooked in a disarm and pat down, but Im not sure Id want it to be the only option in time of need.
I sort of vaguely recall from years ago a girl or somebody getting out of a kidnapping by the prudent application of one of the tiny revolvers at contact distance. It was no doubt a huge surprise to the recipient.
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It is still shown on the Ruger website. Can it be ordered?
Photo luminescent sights has to be the fucking dumbest sight option ever conceived.
I checked and at least my LCP custom has an Ameriglo night sight.
It kind of looks like a Glock sight.
I just sold a Walther TPH .22, which is going to fund the new mousegun. It was kind of cool, but the DA trigger was around 20#.I was, at one point, the inveterate mousegun guy. I’ve had a bunch of them. Still sort of wish I had a TPH.
The Seecamp was astonishingly reliable (keeping in mind that the last round stovepipe is a designed feature, not a bug), but the no-sight thing ultimately wore thin. In hindsight, I should have kept it though. I’m intrigued by some of the NAA custom shop offerings; NAA .32 acp guardians with real sights and stippling, etc. Not cheap, but I bet they’re cool if they run.
The Kahr you are looking at has a good trigger, and good sights. It recoils more than one would expect out of a .380 though. The Sig P238 was a neat little gun, provided that one is ok with the SA design. I shot a 2-day intermediate handgun class with my p-238 back in the day, and I did surprisingly well—certainly holding my own against the other students with that thing. The magazines were sort of expensive.
I’ve not had good luck with the Beretta 21. Honestly, the Taurus PT-22 was more reliable, right up to the point that it went full Taurus, and started doing things like shedding the slide mid-string, or disengaging the safety if you pull the trigger… (Yay! Time saver! Bonus!).
I am intrigued by the threaded barrel Tomcat. My dad has an original recipe .32 Tomcat, and it runs fine. Possibly an option.
I dunno. I suspect that the comments about that LCP custom being the apex of obtainable mouse gun design are probably spot-on. If I find one of those things clean, used, I’m on it.
If I come into FU discretionary cash, I’ll buy a pile of German TPHs, and keep the best two out of the pile. Despite the war-hammer DA trigger on the first shot.
A while ago I had a Sig p238. It shot really well, and was the most reliable of all my 1911 type guns. Which wasn’t saying much, but the 238 was a good little gun. It is just too big for me to justify the limited capacity and caliber. And it has the wrong manual of arms for me at this point. I did use it to protect myself while mountain biking against two Rottweilers that the owner sent after me. Fortunately for everyone involved, “Don’t make me shoot your dogs.” was sufficient.
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Oh well, I’m not *really* in the market, and that DA is atrocious—they’re all that way. PPKs rimfires too. Yeah, I sort of dug the P238. I lugged it around in an “RKBA” pocket holster. That thing absolutely *lunched* recoil springs, though. I convinced Sig to send me 3 springs, gratis, by putting an overview of my round count logs in an email. Those RSAs were sacked by 350 or so rounds, IIRC.
I forgive you for not checking with me on the TPH first, because you’re a bro. Don’t fail me again.
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“There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
"You can never have too many knives." --Joe Ambercrombie
I've carried several mouse guns over the years. A Sterling .22, a Davis derringer in .32ACP, a Beretta Model 20 in .25ACP, a KelTec P11, a Kahr PM9, and some a little bigger. I've always pocket carried. Sometimes allowances need to be made.
Reliability has been a problem at times. The P11 was very reliable until it wasn't. The Kahr was very reliable with the 6 round mag, but had nose dives on the second round with the 7 round mags. I could probably spend some money on different springs to see if I could fix them, but now I have a Glock 43 and a S&W 43c.
I just went on GunBroker looking at mouse guns. I really don't need one.
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