I'd like to get a frame of reference so I know how to evaluate the information you guys are providing.
Can either of you reference a single home defense shooting where it required a hit with more than two 12G shell of 00 buck to stop someone?
Can either of you provide 2 instances where it required more than a single hit with 00 buck on a person to stop them, in any scenerio?
Does barricading all friendly folks in a room, and training a shotgun at the door seem viable to you guys? Or are we hunting down the multiple badguys in our home?
What low light training courses have either of you attended? How many times have you practiced room clearing dark areas, or defending them? Does your house have light switches?
Alot of what I'm asking is not because I truly need the answers. The info being put out is lowest common denominator stuff. It's rumormill hearsay stuff that hasn't proved out in practice. Guys like TCinVA have had more time behind a 12G than most humans. Several members here are respected trainers who have put the 12 to use on folks who needed it. More than a passing number here have taken lowlight classes. Some here teach them. Many of us have gleaned a ton of information by reading the thoughts and perspectives of these respected members. Some of the stuff in this thread is more worthy of the drivel on other forums. Please seriously think about who might be reading what you're posting. We've lost to many SMEs to constantly battling the same poor info.
Half this shit isn't related to the 1301 either. I'm guilty of that myself. Perhaps ammo managment in general would make a good thread of it's own. Classes, HD, hunting... all have unique needs in that regard and have different options available. I'd be happy to read the specifics and nuance of each.