Leaving aside that the 23 has a MOS option, a more shootable grip and slightly more barrel in a similar size package, specifically because of the caliber. For JHP defensive loads, there are more quality 40 loads than 10mm, and with penetrators, I believe the .40 ballistics are squarely in the reliability envelope and the 10 loads are not.
Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.
I stumbled across a 4” model at a LGS and I couldn’t resist. I grabbed an M&P 45 mag when I got it home and it fit perfect.
I would say it’s very comparable to a VP9 trigger.
It is probably a little heavier and there is a little more grit in the take up. It has a very defined wall for the second stage with a little creep if you look for it. My Apex’d a 45 1.0 is a little smoother.
It seems like it will be a very usable trigger that at this time i would see no reason to upgrade.
Does 10mm feed from the 45 mag? I have a small pile of 1.0 45 mags, and I’m looking to downsize pistols. I’m thinking the 10mm would take a pretty good .40 gun in a slightly larger frame would be the “ultimate” 40 gun that could shoot some 10mm, sort of like folks using 10mm Glock guns with .40 conversion barrels.
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I hope to get it out today for a little bit and plan on testing some 45 mags. The feed lips are further apart on the 45, so they aren’t the same mag with a different follower. The round sits a little higher, but will feed in manual cycling.
I visually checked chamber support, it appears to be better than my Jarvis G20 barrel and a lot better than the stock G20.
I got a chance to shoot about 75 rds through it today.
Good:
- Accuracy was excellent with a red dot and I did ok with the iron sights which were a little high at 25 yrds. It was comparable to my M&P 45.
- I shot a variety of ammo and no pregnant belly
- Trigger worked well.
- 45 mags worked ok (follower doesn’t activate the slide stop very positively)
Bad:
- 509t lasted less than 2 mags of heavier loads before the screws sheared and the plastic core plate cracked. Now I have to find a way to get the screws out.
- a couple FTF with 200 gr HST and some double tap hard cast.
- recoil is snappy with the heavy stuff.