Alec Baldwin kills crew member on set with "prop gun"

[nycnoob]

Looks like the production broke nearly all the rules of the profession for weapons handling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_master

In some areas the weapons master must be a licensed armourer when firearms are used as props.^[2]
As of 1993, when Brandon Lee was killed by a gun believed to be loaded with blanks, the rules of the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers required:^[3]

• Someone certified for the weapon in use be present at all times
• Firearms must be checked before and after each take
• Firearms must be cleaned daily
• Firearms must be stored securely by the props master when not in use
• Loaded guns must never be pointed at anyone
• Protective clothing must be worn by everyone nearby when blanks are fired
• If firearms are to be fired directly at the camera, a plexiglass shield must be erected
• Only the person certified for the weapon or someone under their direct supervision may hand a weapon to an actor

[GearFondler]

There are a gazillion questions and possibilities involved here….but for me it really boils down to this:

How and why did Baldwin point a firearm at another person and pull the trigger?

This again!?
Are you seriously being serious?
Have you ever watched a movie?
It's his job to point guns at people and shoot at them.
Ya know what... Never mind. I just can't.

Edit: There was a load of safety questions and speculation when Dale Earnhardt was killed in a racing accident at Daytona but I don't remember any internet experts demanding to know why these guys were all tailgating in racecars doing 190mph.

[LittleLebowski]

How and why did Baldwin point a firearm at another person and pull the trigger?

This is how movies with guns in them get made.

[Jim Watson]

There have been people shot in analogous situations, live ammo in a classroom, frex, and it is a relatively minor news item to anybody outside the shooting and training Gun Culture.
Does this story have legs because it features a "celebrity" doing business with the guns he does not trust us with?

I wonder if Mr Baldwin has privately owned firearms for his own protection and recreation like so many of the elites.

[peterb]

There have been people shot in analogous situations, live ammo in a classroom, frex, and it is a relatively minor news item to anybody outside the shooting and training Gun Culture.
Does this story have legs because it features a "celebrity" doing business with the guns he does not trust us with?.

It’s a famous person in the entertainment business who killed another person in the entertainment business. It’d be front-page news even if the weapon was a dull teaspoon.

[YVK]

I doubt we could get a different actor to say whether he checks to see that the prop department's gun is really empty for rehearsal or loaded only with blanks for filming. Maybe Keanu Reeves?

Keanu loads his own blanks. Taran made him learn how to reload, and then he went to Dillon to get certified. Single stage, progressive, from 650 to 1050, Mark 7, Keanu can do it all.

[LittleLebowski]

Keanu loads his own blanks. Taran made him learn how to reload, and then he went to Dillon to get certified. Single stage, progressive, from 650 to 1050, Mark 7, Keanu can do it all.

No shit, how cool. Link?

[JohnO]

There have been people shot in analogous situations, live ammo in a classroom, frex, and it is a relatively minor news item to anybody outside the shooting and training Gun Culture.

There is a former (retired) LEO who worked in a CT gun store. He taught NRA classes through the store for the CT state carry permit process. He shot himself not once but twice in separate incidents while conducting the classes. You can't make this stuff up!

[GearFondler]

There is a former (retired) LEO who worked in a CT gun store. He taught NRA classes through the store for the CT state carry permit process. He shot himself not once but twice in separate incidents while conducting the classes. You can't make this stuff up!

Soooo... At least he's not a quitter?

[YVK]

No shit, how cool. Link?

Duuuude. You need a cup of coffee.



I was joking. No freaking way any of those actors will be checking that. Keanu or anyone else. I doubt they know how live vs blank looks. Nor will they ever work on productions where safety of equipment is made their responsibility.