Alec Baldwin kills crew member on set with "prop gun"

[Malamute]

Learning about guns from movies is like learning about sex from porn.

Porn gives people unrealistic expectations about how long it takes to get a plumber to show up at your house.


But back on topic sort of,...there was some comment earlier on, Baldwin claimed the gun fired without him touching the trigger. it was supposedly examined by experts and said to be in proper working order, they were unable to make it fire without pulling the trigger, then later his attorney said they damaged the gun in examining it so it cant be proved, then later it seems to have been healed and able to be examined and shown to be damaged....So who knows at this point.

[SecondsCount]

Not really sure this is the correct thread for this or not, but an interesting observation on how the most liberal and woke community in our country who is so anti-gun for you and me is also is the same group of people who absolutely love to put guns on TV / movies.

Going a bit more off topic but has anyone ever created a correlation between gun violence in movies to an increased fear of guns?

[0ddl0t]

rust armorer now charged with evidence tampering for transferring narcotics to someone else after the shooting

[Stephanie B]

Prosecutors sent the gun to another testing company, which replaced parts and tested the gun.

I'm no SME, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it will not be hard to find a busload of experts who will give expert opinions that by changing parts in the gun, the gun won't operate in the same condition and manner that it did when the shooting took place. Hell, I'd argue that by replacing parts, it's not the same gun and that this report shouldn't even come into evidence.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Going a bit more off topic but has anyone ever created a correlation between gun violence in movies to an increased fear of guns?

Thread drift - the experimental literature on priming aggression in general with media is mixed for normal folks. Some evidence that if you have someone on the path to such, media can guide their path and choices. Interesting piece on how social apps interactions increases the chance of violence as rhetoric pushes posturing and then violence:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-media/674760/

or

https://www.propublica.org/article/s...oung-americans

Topic should be its own thread.

[ccmdfd]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/19/enter...ing/index.html

Add two counts of involuntary manslaughter to Mr B's worries.

[RoyGBiv]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/19/enter...ing/index.html

Add two counts of involuntary manslaughter to Mr B's worries.

From the link..

The first involuntary manslaughter charge against Baldwin is described in court documents as “negligent use of a firearm” and the second as involuntary manslaughter without due caution or circumspection, which is detailed as “an act committed with the total disregard or indifference to the safety of others.”

Both are fourth degree felonies.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.co...lony-class.htm

Fourth-Degree Felonies in New Mexico

A defendant convicted of a fourth-degree felony in New Mexico generally faces up to 18 months in prison and a $5,000 fine. The maximum prison sentence is 10 years if the crime involved sexual exploitation of a child.
Examples of fourth-degree felonies include larceny (theft) of property worth more than $500 but no more than $2,500, personal possession of some illegal drugs (including methamphetamine and opiates), and aggravated assault. (N.M. Stat. §§ 30-3-2, 30-16-1, 30-31-23, 31-18-15 (2022).)

[OfficeCat]

Some tortuously passive construction in that CNN article:

"Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was killed and director Joel Souza injured when a gun held by Baldwin fired a live round during a scene rehearsal on the set of the Western."


Reminds me of the time President John F. Kennedy was killed and Governor John Connally was injured when a gun held by Lee Harvey Oswald fired a live round during a motorcade through Dealey Plaza.

[ccmdfd]

Some tortuously passive construction in that CNN article:

"Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was killed and director Joel Souza injured when a gun held by Baldwin fired a live round during a scene rehearsal on the set of the Western."


Reminds me of the time President John F. Kennedy was killed and Governor John Connally was injured when a gun held by Lee Harvey Oswald fired a live round during a motorcade through Dealey Plaza.

Sounds kinda like when those airplanes being flown by men of the IJN started dropping bombs and torpedoes in Hawaii in 1941.

[ccmdfd]

Anybody watching the Gutierrez trial?

I didn't realize it had started until I just happened to get a YouTube notification over the weekend