Assailant with bow and arrows kills 5 people in Norway

[javemtr]

They weren't even broadheads. Pictures in European media show regular target shooting arrows with the little metal pointy tip.
Rumor in several publications is that he also used a knife, has previously been under surveillance by Norwegian authorities, is a convert to the religion of peace, and apparently was just on his way to the Aloha Snackbar.

[wvincent]

Now being reported as a Muslim convert who had been flagged for as being radicalized.
Let's hope it's a one off vs the start of a series.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/norway...radicalization

Sorry, @javemtr and I must have writing at the same time.

[TCinVA]

Modern broadheads are frighteningly lethal devices. People who don't hunt have likely never seen a deer double lunged with a carbon fiber arrow tipped with a modern broadhead from a modern bow. When you hit a deer and see it jump and move a couple of steps pumping huge gushers of blood out both sides of its chest and then wobble and fall over never understanding WTF just happened it convinces you that a broadhead anywhere to the torso of a person is probably a game over event.

Cutting tissue is far more efficient at making it bleed than crushing it.

If I had to make a choice, I'd rather take a 9mm to the chest than an arrow with a modern broadhead on it. As long as a 9mm doesn't hit a major artery and you get to a hospital reasonably quickly, you have a pretty high chance of survival. A broadhead not so much.

Video for reference:

[TCinVA]

They weren't even broadheads. Pictures in European media show regular target shooting arrows with the little metal pointy tip.

I wonder if that's pictures from the scene or the way our press puts pictures of AK-47's up on stories about someone shot with a handgun.

[TGS]

Any info out there about how IIIa soft armor performs against "active archers"?

[Caballoflaco]

Modern broadheads are frighteningly lethal devices. People who don't hunt have likely never seen a deer double lunged with a carbon fiber arrow tipped with a modern broadhead from a modern bow. When you hit a deer and see it jump and move a couple of steps pumping huge gushers of blood out both sides of its chest and then wobble and fall over never understanding WTF just happened it convinces you that a broadhead anywhere to the torso of a person is probably a game over event.

Cutting tissue is far more efficient at making it bleed than crushing it.

If I had to make a choice, I'd rather take a 9mm to the chest than an arrow with a modern broadhead on it. As long as a 9mm doesn't hit a major artery and you get to a hospital reasonably quickly, you have a pretty high chance of survival. A broadhead not so much.

Video for reference:

A fixed blade broadhead going 170fps from a 40lb trad bow will go completely through a deer if you don’t hit the shoulder or spine and and cut up way more stuff than any handgun round.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I hate to say this but the incident is a natural experiment to see if more like this occur. The criminologists argue that the publicity incites others and provides templates for action. I recall some scenes from Hong Kong: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/17/hong...-fortress.html

[texasaggie2005]

Modern broadheads are frighteningly lethal devices. People who don't hunt have likely never seen a deer double lunged with a carbon fiber arrow tipped with a modern broadhead from a modern bow. When you hit a deer and see it jump and move a couple of steps pumping huge gushers of blood out both sides of its chest and then wobble and fall over never understanding WTF just happened it convinces you that a broadhead anywhere to the torso of a person is probably a game over event.

Cutting tissue is far more efficient at making it bleed than crushing it.

If I had to make a choice, I'd rather take a 9mm to the chest than an arrow with a modern broadhead on it. As long as a 9mm doesn't hit a major artery and you get to a hospital reasonably quickly, you have a pretty high chance of survival. A broadhead not so much.

Video for reference:

Yeah, a solid hit with a modern broadhead is gnarly.

[Trooper224]

As someone who's spent over four decade studying such weapons............... shocked face.

[Totem Polar]

I’m with the people who’d rather take the 9mm odds than the broadhead odds. The only reason we don’t still use crossbows is rate of fire, onboard/carry ammo capacity, and range—not terminal effectiveness of the projectile.