No Time To Die

[HeavyDuty]

Going to see it tonight at one of the local Austin dinner-and-a-movie places.

[TOTS]

So Daniel Craig is a great actor and has made great Bond Movies. But as soon as you are exposed to the character from the Flemming novels, there’s only one Bond and the picture @blues posted should be the end of the discussion! He was specifically chosen as he represented the character like no other actor could at the time.

Yep, @blues, I'd take Daniel Craig over Sean Connery. Connery's edges, in my mind, were over-polished. That was appropriate for the character as developed by Ian Fleming, but that was then and now is now. Craig, with his sharp corners and all, is more contemporary, thus my preference.

While the 60s Bond may have more polished edges, that’s a deliberate nod to the British protocol and aristocracy built into his world. And Connery didn’t even have any of this polish. Didn’t even wear a watch so Cubby Broccoli (producer) had to take the Rolex off his own wrist for Connery to wear while filming. The expensive clothes and cars were to represent durability and craftsmanship from hand-built wares in that era rather than status, which the novel really didn’t bestow on the character. The books describe him as wearing nice suits because one had to be able to get in a fight and then dust your jacket off and put it back on. All of the Craig-era trimmings are only to indicate expensive tastes and a decadent lifestyle (of course, product placement also) so I would almost argue the Craig character has more polish. Flemmings Bond doesn’t work in today’s world short attention span, everything disposable, status driven world so they had to change the character to be more relatable. That’s why Connery is Bond. Change my mind!

[ccmdfd]

Connery was the right Bond for his Era, Moore was the same for his Era, and Craig for this one.

Imagine taking the Craig films back in time to the 60's-70's and showing them. The MPAA would probably have refused an R rating for them, and viewers' heads would have exploded.

I loved the Moore films as a kid, but find them cringeworthy now. Yet I still laugh my a$$ off for Neilson's antics in Airplane and Naked Gun as well as Sellers in Pink Panther.

So do I understand it correctly that we will have both a series on the replacement 007, as well as one on post-retirement Bond? (or perhaps prequels for Bond prior to His Magesty's Secret Service)

[blues]

As I mentioned, I lost interest in the Bond genre many years ago...but I could never see Roger Moore in that role. There was, to my mind, just something off in his persona...and not the man's man I envisioned Bond to be. A man who could wear a tux one moment and play rugby the next.

In any case, everyone is free to choose their favorites. Who's to say who's right?

[Paul D]

The next James Bond will be a white guy.

Spectre (2015) made $200M in the US and $680M worldwide. Of that $680M, more than half came from Asia, Africa and eastern Europe. UK made up about $124M. I am certain that those audiences in Asia, Africa and E. Europe aren't woke and have a different view of LGBTQ issues than the US/UK. MGM is in the business of making money.

[blues]

The next James Bond will be a white guy.

Spectre (2015) made $200M in the US and $680M worldwide. Of that $680M, more than half came from Asia, Africa and eastern Europe. UK made up about $124M. I am certain that those audiences in Asia, Africa and E. Europe aren't woke and have a different view of LGBTQ issues than the US/UK. MGM is in the business of making money.

I think Idris Elba could have taken up the mantle. He impressed mightily in "The Wire". Less so, for me personally, in "Luther" but only because it wasn't as great a show.

He has presence and I believe he'd make a fine Bond if called upon.

[Trooper224]

I'd very much like to see Idris Elba as Bond.

[Paul D]

Idris Elba would be cool. I remember there were rumors 1-2 years ago that he was up next to bat but he publicly denied it...like a spy.

[donlapalma]

Saw it today and loved it. I'll miss Craig in this role.

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[Hot Sauce]

IMO Craig plays the role well, but most of the actual scripting of the movies he's been is sucks. This one was plain tedious. The only Bond films of his I liked overall were Casino Royale and Skyfall.

Connery is still and will always be THE Bond.