ATF Raids Larry Vickers? Anyone know anything about this?

[High Cross]

Just saw that Vickers was indicted and has already pleaded guilty to some charges. Not sure if this was posted elsewhere.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/n...nsees-indicted

Looks like he took creative measures to get firearms he wanted to collect. As we I am sure agree this is not something that should be a crime.

[WobblyPossum]

The statement of facts that Vickers acknowledged as part of the plea agreement has been posted. I’m not familiar with embedding Tweets so here’s a hyperlink to the first four pages. There are other Tweets with the rest of the pages. If someone could embed all of these, that would be helpful.

https://twitter.com/2Aupdates/status...52626307854370

[Caballoflaco]

The statement of facts that Vickers acknowledged as part of the plea agreement has been posted. I’m not familiar with embedding Tweets so here’s a hyperlink to the first four pages. There are other Tweets with the rest of the pages. If someone could embed all of these, that would be helpful.

https://twitter.com/2Aupdates/status...52626307854370

Under the tweet click on copy link and then paste it into this format and delete everything but the numbers, I left a space between the back slash and Tweet that should be there so it doesn’t imbed.
[Tweet]1715452631139688806 [/ Tweet]

https://twitter.com/@twitter/status/1715452631139688806

[TC215]

I downloaded the plea agreement from PACER but don’t know how to post the whole PDF.

He screwed up.

[WobblyPossum]

https://twitter.com/@twitter/status/1715452636080607487

Thanks @Caballoflaco.

Here are the last two pages.

[TGS]

https://twitter.com/@twitter/status/1715452636080607487

Thanks @Caballoflaco.

Here are the last two pages.

Damn.

Doing business with a Russian oligarch to circumvent an arms import ban is a good way to find trouble. Appears this is a lot more than just some guy using an FFL/SOT to get some MGs for personal fun.

[HCM]

Looks like he took creative measures to get firearms he wanted to collect. As we I am sure agree this is not something that should be a crime.

Read the plea agreement.

The “creative” law letters for personal collections are one thing. Violating sanctions with a hostile power are a whole other ball game.

Hypothetically say you’re using the “creative” law letters to flip MG for profit instead of personal collecting. Use a creative law letter to acquire post sample MGs then have your SOT shut down and sell off its post sample MGs. Post sample MG sold by an SOT going out of business are exempt law letters. So your 1500 dollar Post Sample is now worth $15,000 (or more). Say you acquire dozens of PS MG at $10k or more profit each. Then you get a new SOT for your new company “rinse and repeat” a few times and you’re talking real money.

Or using “creative” law letters to acquire PS MG for use in monetized videos. Mail fraud ? Wire fraud ?

TLDR there is more going on here and apparently a lot of money involved. I’ve never seen IRS Criminal Investigations get involved in anything involving less than 7 figures.

[TGS]

Read the plea agreement.

The “creative” law letters for personal collections are one thing. Violating sanctions with a hostile power are a whole other ball game.

Hypothetically say you’re using the “creative” law letters to flip MG for profit instead of personal collecting. Use a creative law letter to acquire post sample MGs then have your SOT shut down and sell off its post sample MGs. Post sample MG sold by an SOT going out of business are exempt law letters. So your 1500 dollar Post Sample is now worth $15,000 (or more). Say you acquire dozens of PS MG at $10k or more profit each. Then you get a new SOT for your new company “rinse and repeat” a few times and you’re talking real money.

Or using “creative” law letters to acquire PS MG for use in monetized videos. Mail fraud ? Wire fraud ?

TLDR there is more going on here and apparently a lot of money involved. I’ve never seen IRS Criminal Investigations get involved in anything involving less than 7 figures.

When I first read it and was chatting with @WobblyPossum and @Le Francais, the initial information looked like an overzealous prosecution to make an example.

We give it a few hours, and with this development it's pretty clear that Vickers is one dirty motherfucker that has clearly lost his way in life.

He made a bed with the enemies of America for his own personal gain. Fuck him. He can lie in it.

[Jim Watson]

I thought the daisy chain of guys swapping “dealer samples” among themselves was harmless fun, but you ought not deal with the Reds.

[sickeness]

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