By modern standards, absolutely.
I've booted field-grade Officers off of M9 ranges for similar poses and BS. It's a fucking weapon, not a camera prop for a neat fucking selfie.
Edit: Looking at the whole context, I'm grateful this guy is teaching new shooters - but he's doing them a grave disservice by allowing such poor muzzle discipline. I sincerely hope it becomes a lesson learned and a bad picture for them, and nothing more.
<sarcasm> Never! A YouTube gun celeb would *never* be part of anything cringeworthy. </sarcasm>
This is all over Instagram and I still don't know who that guy is.
JRB - agree in principal but I would seriously wonder about the quality/level of training the fellow offered? If cutie pie's pictures, showing such callous disregard for basic firearms safety, I would suspect the level of training to be commensurate with his picture taking - if he is a state licensed instructor, I would suggest the state have a retraining session with him and/or pull his ticket for such asshattery.
Clinton House Plantation is in my neck of the woods - I just sent them an email w/link suggesting since their name is included in the picture posting they may want to review the scope of this gentleman's activities while on their premises
Last edited by tactical1; 09-13-2021 at 04:46 PM.
No idea who he is
More new shooters are more new shooters, and that is a good thing. It'd be my emphatic preference that modern safety standards are held universally in all things. I'll uphold that standard as best I can within my lane, and encourage others to do so as well. But if the only new shooter training was happening to that same standard, we'd have a shitload less new shooters every year.
I'm not offering that or anything else as an excuse of any kind - but many of us were taught how to shoot in an era when there was a much more cavalier approach to trigger discipline and muzzle discipline. This picture wouldn't have been out of place or considered unsafe in any way when I first learned to shoot pistols. Again, that is no excuse in a modern era, but I do 'remember where I came from'.
I do see the current safety standards as an overwhelming improvement over that of days gone by, and I question the sanity (and skill level) of anyone who disagrees with that.
But also being truthful of the modern era, it's unlikely that you can visit a public range on any given Saturday and NOT witness similar handling/safety violations. Only in truly professional instruction or well-run club events will you see modern best practices and safety standards universally upheld.
As I said, I sincerely hope all of those students become passionate shooters that seek out properly qualified, safe, truly professional instruction sooner rather than later - and look back on this picture and cringe too.
JRB - well said and I agree 100% A topic worthy of discussion over several drinks and cigars!
Part of my concern was a well respecting shooting facility being named with perhaps some liabilities if this fellow is not a safe/certified instructor. Unfortunately, as you know, many new shooters are unable to distinguish the quality of their instructors as they have no basis for comparison.
I suspect we both have trained under some great instructors and some that we would not recommend to referee a dog fight!