Opinions on Designing Concealed Carry Pants

[JRV]

Tons of people have given tons of useful specs and ideas. I’ll pitch in with a quality of a bad carry pant: excessively loose belt loops.

I have a shorts and pants with belt loops ranging from just over 1.5” to nearly 2” in height. The 1.5” loops fit my Specialist belts like gloves, so it’s like the whole garment is locked in with the belt is locked in with the holster. Completely flex-free draws, super stable ride, and with a junk carry pillow, zero hot spots.

Pants with big loops? A reinforced belt has two options: cinch down into oblivion, or cantilever and flip around in the belt loop based on the gun’s position. You go to draw, and the belt has room to flex and twist a tiny bit. Not ideal.

[Le Français]

Tons of people have given tons of useful specs and ideas. I’ll pitch in with a quality of a bad carry pant: excessively loose belt loops.

I have a shorts and pants with belt loops ranging from just over 1.5” to nearly 2” in height. The 1.5” loops fit my Specialist belts like gloves, so it’s like the whole garment is locked in with the belt is locked in with the holster. Completely flex-free draws, super stable ride, and with a junk carry pillow, zero hot spots.

Pants with big loops? A reinforced belt has two options: cinch down into oblivion, or cantilever and flip around in the belt loop based on the gun’s position. You go to draw, and the belt has room to flex and twist a tiny bit. Not ideal.

Yes! Here is a quote from the product description of a pair of so-called tactical jeans: "2 1/4" long, reinforced belt loops"

I'm idly curious about who thought that was a good thing, and why they thought so. When I got to that line, I immediately decided not to buy those pants.

[El Cid]

Design two different styles. One with plenty of pockets, for those who like to carry everything but the kitchen sink. The second pair in more of a chino/business casual style for those of us who don't dress like a tactical fireman. Include a stretch waist and a straight leg to accommodate ankle holsters. Make them in more colors than olive drab and flat dark earth. 1.5 inch loops.

This! I carry a G26 as a BUG daily as well as an ankle med kit on the opposite leg. It’s getting more and more challenging to find pants that allow this. The skinny pants nonsense has invaded al pants manufacturing it seems.

I’ll also add my vote to the belt loops - 1.5” with just enough extra room for thicker CCW style belts. Also the back center should have 3 sturdy loops. Not a tunnel. Not a single loop.

I don’t want cargo pockets unless I get access to a time machine and need to return to 1995. Lol! But the cell phone side pockets are money. I’d like one on each side but they can’t be too low. The TD Carlos Ray pants have them way too low and the phones flop around, are uncomfortable when seated, and fall out. The VertX Cutback Technical pants have ideal phone pockets IMO.

I also agree with the pockets being able to support pocket carry of a G43/J-frame. Especially if you’ll offer these as shorts down the road. Back pockets should be flapless as the flaps tend to cause the untucked shirt to hang up in my experience.

Color preferences: Tan, Khaki, Black, Gray, and Navy.

No logos or obvious branding to make it easy for people in the know to recognize them as gun carry pants.

Thanks for doing this Mack!