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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyoming Shooter View Post
    Is .38 SC brass in stock anywhere? Starline is out. Thanks.
    And the next component shortage begins!!! LOL

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    Shit Lost, just have her carry the 870 & bandoleer of ammo. That should slow her down enough for you to keep up.


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    Finally got a chance to shoot these today in a Taurus 856UL...


    BUY SOME!!! Get some dies too. I can see this becoming my favorite round gun load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs View Post
    I recall that concept cartridge from Cotterman also! (We are old, Bruce!) Didn't he call it the .357 Special?
    Wayne:

    I did some digging around the American Handgunner Classic Editions that AH keeps in digital format and found the reference. Here is the link: "https://americanhandgunner.com/1978issues/HJA78.pdf". Mr. Cotterman's column begins on page 58. He called the cartridge the 357 Short. The short version is that he achieved a 20% to 25% increase in velocities. The time frame when he experimented with the 357 Short was about 20 years prior to the 1978 article. A 20% increase is pretty significant.

    Food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Cartwright View Post
    Wayne:

    I did some digging around the American Handgunner Classic Editions that AH keeps in digital format and found the reference. Here is the link: "https://americanhandgunner.com/1978issues/HJA78.pdf". Mr. Cotterman's column begins on page 58. He called the cartridge the 357 Short. The short version is that he achieved a 20% to 25% increase in velocities. The time frame when he experimented with the 357 Short was about 20 years prior to the 1978 article. A 20% increase is pretty significant.

    Food for thought.

    Bruce
    Thanks for posting that. Aside from the data, I really like vintage gun porn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Cartwright View Post
    Wayne:

    I did some digging around the American Handgunner Classic Editions that AH keeps in digital format and found the reference. Here is the link: "https://americanhandgunner.com/1978issues/HJA78.pdf". Mr. Cotterman's column begins on page 58. He called the cartridge the 357 Short. The short version is that he achieved a 20% to 25% increase in velocities. The time frame when he experimented with the 357 Short was about 20 years prior to the 1978 article. A 20% increase is pretty significant.

    Food for thought.

    Bruce
    That was a great article, and time capsule. The author was trimming his .38 spl brass to .9 inches, which is about mid way between .38 Short Colt (0.76 inches) and .38 Long Colt (1.02 inches).

    I did note that his load data seemed in line with current recommendations, not counting the 19% reduction in case capacity.

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    Alright, you guys have made me curious. Lee dies ordered and on the way, 38 SC brass backordered so can't load til whenever that arrives. Have plenty of everything else and a couple of ideas on what to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    Alright, you guys have made me curious. Lee dies ordered and on the way, 38 SC brass backordered so can't load til whenever that arrives. Have plenty of everything else and a couple of ideas on what to try.
    I backordered Starline .38 SC brass last night and got a tracking number today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    I backordered Starline .38 SC brass last night and got a tracking number today.
    Yep. Placed my order a couple hours before posting yesterday, and just got my tracking number. So even though it's still showing as backorder on the Starline site as of a few minutes ago, they are shipping.

    I know they sell more than a little 38 SC brass to competition shooters, can't help but wonder though if they've seen a measurable spike in orders because of this thread.

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    Wonder if the backorder thing is just to throttle the sales and keep someone from hoarding it and trying to make some bucks flipping it.
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