You're a member of the F.U.R. (R="retina") Club too? It's a distinction one would rather do without, and I have no desire to fire anything likely to require another "best we can do" repair. The vision thing is what would keep me from being perfectly happy with a '73 Winchester rifle, S&W Double Action Frontier revolver (both in .44-40) and a 12 gauge double with a DAMNED heavy set of barrels.
I was fascinated by the SL-7 until I got the opportunity to shoot, detail strip and clean one... then my interest cooled. The resemblance to a G 41 or G 43 was not enough to sustain my initial infatuation.
gn
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“Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
Yes. My eyes now suck... and are getting suckier.
Can modern optics be put on old stuff? Sure. It may be a cobbled up compromise and might desecrate the landscape, but there isn't much that can't be done if if you invest enough time and/or money. It is not something I would enjoy doing.
gn
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I dont believe its a given that it would be cobbled up or even prohibitively expensive.
I intend to try a small pistol type red dot on the 1873 carbine. The goal will be as clean and compact mount as I can figure out and leave the irons intact.
I would just enjoy having upgraded sighting options, and dont think it has to be a crime against humanity to achieve. My eyesight is still OK, if not quite up to my younger years level, but better sighting options give more flexibility to the individual gun and allow it to be a more practical general use item.
I used to be opposed to scopes on Winchester 94s, and also recall passing on many shots that would have been relatively simple with a scope. Theres a place for iron sights lever carbines, they cover a lot of use niches, but arent as flexible as a general use gun. Same with a red dot on a 73 or whatever. The question arises "why not just take a bolt action then?" Well, thats one possible option, and one I used to do sometimes, even though I like levers quite a lot more. At some point it gets to be "Do I carry what i like and revel in its purity from ugly scopes and such but accept a significant handicap in actual use, or do I carry something I dont like as much but has better sighting?" Thats not the only possible answer though. I can accept that I can carry the levers I like, and add better sighting. Getting over the objection to it not being pure or whatever is that step that precedes that.
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“Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
We all have varying tolerances for things "up with which we shall not put." I have a red dot on a Marlin 1894CSS which has the heresies - to someone way over on the historic end of the spectrum - of an optic and stainless steel construction. It makes a nice utility package I can make hits with. Putting an M-Lok aluminum forend forend on it might make it even handier... but I ain't there yet.
Maybe I will get there eventually; maybe I won't.
gn
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With NY's Bruen Response Bill - they made it so that in order to purchase a semi-automatic rifle of any kind - you need the same license you'd get to purchase a handgun. In my county that requires three references who live in the county and have known you for at least 2 years. It is a defacto ban on semi-automatic firearms and handguns. Including not being able to move here with ones I already owned.
Any future ban-compliant rifle will have to be not semi-automatic. Look at UK and Australia for the types of bans that they want to bring here.
I have done a bit of shooting in Australia and Lee Enfields were popular in 2007. I am an ex NYer myself. That bit about 3 references in the county you live in acting as a defacto ban on someone moving in with a handgun has to be able to be successfully fought in a post Bruen world.
Yes, but those challenges are years in the making and processing. We have lower courts, appeals to the 2nd Circuit and then prayers that Scotus takes up the negative decision from the 2nd Circuit. This is because Bruen did not clearly state the application of the 2nd Amendment but sent 4 decisions back into a morass, they did not support the TROs by the first level of lower courts and decided to have a rule rather than clear positive statements of how permits should be granted with alacrity and criteria. The failure to support the TROs for some majesty of the lower courts and to scold the circuit was a moronic choice. We had a basic right. It was taking away. Clarence could have given it back but instead put it on pause. Yes, he and Alito said that the 2nd better get it together. Bullshit, they could have been charged with getting it together with the TROs in place.
Bruen was a challenge to having to show purpose for a permit. That was voided and the state then threw waves of new crap that has to be fought.
They could have said that permits to purchase and carry must be granted to anyone who takes a class (without undue expense and time) and passes a criminal background check. The permit should be granted in no longer than a month after submitting an application documenting the class. Instead, we got a rule about why Humford Dumpwiesel carried a cannon in a wheel barrel in 1698. Social media checks, moral character, blah, blah - that could have all been ruled out in the decision. The locale rules and opt in made carry impossible. Clarence's brilliant commentary on Manhattan was clobbered by opt in. I've said this a zillion times.
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