FBI agent arrested in shooting

[HCM]

Feds to require body cams:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-man...110510?mod=mhp

During execution of pre-planned operations so exactly zero relevance to the subject of this thread.

Speaking of which, all the discussion of OC and Batons is also irrelevant to an agent riding the metro on their way to work.

Regardless of agency very few plainclothes federal agents actually carry OC or batons on their person regularly. Most either have them on duty /tactical belts worn on ore-planned operations or keep them in a briefcase /EDC bag and throw them on for interviews or other contacts. That’s working in the field. Among HQ folks you’re lucky if they carry their gun.

As @TC215 Alluded to, the proactive nature of most federal LE work vs the reactive nature of patrol work makes body cams far less relevant.

[DDTSGM]

Does the FBI still have a rule about taping interviews? It used to be forbidden.

[TC215]

Does the FBI still have a rule about taping interviews? It used to be forbidden.

To my knowledge, it wasn’t forbidden, you had to have approval from the chief division counsel. Policy changed a few years ago and it’s not as restrictive as before.

[vcdgrips]

DOJ made a hard turn toward recording all custodial interviews in late 2014.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attor...onic-recording

It has been a matter of public record that in many areas of the country, particularly in the in the child exploitation context, all custodial and non custodial interviews of potential defendants, were routinely recorded beginning at least in that same time frame by FBI Special Agents and their deputized Task Force Officers.

[GJM]

During execution of pre-planned operations so exactly zero relevance to the subject of this thread.

Speaking of which, all the discussion of OC and Batons is also irrelevant to an agent riding the metro on their way to work.

Regardless of agency very few plainclothes federal agents actually carry OC or batons on their person regularly. Most either have them on duty /tactical belts worn on ore-planned operations or keep them in a briefcase /EDC bag and throw them on for interviews or other contacts. That’s working in the field. Among HQ folks you’re lucky if they carry their gun.

As @TC215 Alluded to, the proactive nature of most federal LE work vs the reactive nature of patrol work makes body cams far less relevant.

I bet 5 PF bucks, that within five years all local, state and federal LE officers will have body cams whenever they are carrying a duty weapon.

[BigD]

I bet 5 PF bucks, that within five years all local, state and federal LE officers will have body cams whenever they are carrying a duty weapon.

You will lose due to the ALL qualifier.

[GJM]

You will lose due to the ALL qualifier.

You are right, I should have said “most all!”

[vcdgrips]

The word we are looking for is majority--- 50% +1.

I absolutely agree re GJM's timeline for uniformed personnel and non uniformed personnel during enforcement functions like search warrants and arrests.

Whether it is essentially if your are "on duty" with gun/badge then you are "on camera" for whole shift-we shall see.

[olstyn]

Potentially dumb question from a non-LEO: Isn't part of the point of being plain clothes vs uniformed that you aren't always obviously some form of LEO? If so, wouldn't putting body cams on plain clothes LEOs defeat that purpose?

[HCM]

You will lose due to the ALL qualifier.

That shows his ignorance of the differences between what patrol /first responders do and what investigators do.