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    @Rmiked if you want to go further down the measuring rabbit hole do a search on the 1911addicts and 1911forums on how to properly measure the frame and slide on a 1911. You’ll learn about several different techniques and tools that smiths use to take all the measurements they need to make sure they end up with a quality fit.

    ETA: or just spend some time browsing the gunsmithing subforum on either forum. While there aren’t as many Smith’s posting in the past there is still a lot of good info and answers to questions you didn’t know you had on those sites.
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    I may take a look at that. Thanks. But honestly mine greatly exceeds what I thought was possible. I can imagine the more loose fitting pistols being very reliable in feeding and ejection. Mine is very reliable even though seems tight in slide-frame fit and barrel/lug and barrel/bushing lockup. And the chamber I. D. is dead-on the I.D. On the SAAMI drawings for 10mm. My “dive” into the 1911 world has revealed that some of these pistols (match quality) is more like a jeweler making a watch than what I imagined was involved in building a pistol. I imagine these high end pistol-smiths (like Nighthawk or comparable) have to balance any more precision than I’m seeing with Dan Wesson with operating reliability. My pistol is way more accurate than me. I wouldn’t want any of it any tighter. I would be afraid it may become less reliable.

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    Here’s a link to make it super easy. I’m not posting this up in regards to your specific pistol needing help, but as one of the better free resources to learn the in-depth mechanics of the system. As you mentioned earlier in the thread you’re interested in how they work and you’ve obviously spent some time pondering on it.

    https://www.1911addicts.com/forums/1911-gunsmithing.46/

    FWIW if I had 5 grand to drop on a pistol I would spend it on a Joe Chamber’s 1911 University class. While I don’t use 1911’s for anything serious at the moment I too enjoying occasionally geeking out on all the little details and spending a week building my own custom blaster under the tutelage of a dude who knows what he’s doing would be a bucket list vacation for me.
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    Seems like you are satisfied with you DW 10mm. Personally, I would get another DW in .45acp. Comparisons between the two would be fun to do, sorta apples to apples. And if the DW is more accurate than you are, why invest in a custom since it will also be more accurate than you.....or me for that matter. I've gone from MOA to MOB....minute of barn over the years.

    The only complaint I have with my DW A2 is thumb safety. The safety extends past the backstrap and irritates the web of my hand, between thumb and index finger. Even just handling the pistol a few minutes causes the irritation to begin. I took my Springfield Loaded .45 and compared it to the DW. The Springfield was like..........ahhhhhh. No irritation at all. When I look at 1911s online, I gravitate to the thumb safety to see how it fits in relation to the backstrap. I know a production pistol can vary a bit in the fit of the thumb safety, but I still like to take a look at the TS fit.

    Glad you are enjoying your DW!

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    Everyone has a different perception of tight. I’ve never seen a DW that was anything close to tight, but whatever.

    If a 1911 is built right, it won’t be tight by 1911 standards but people not familiar with them will think they’re like a bank vault. Those 1911s will be the most reliable. Sloppy does not in any way equal reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAH 3rd View Post
    Seems like you are satisfied with you DW 10mm. Personally, I would get another DW in .45acp. Comparisons between the two would be fun to do, sorta apples to apples. And if the DW is more accurate than you are, why invest in a custom since it will also be more accurate than you.....or me for that matter. I've gone from MOA to MOB....minute of barn over the years.

    The only complaint I have with my DW A2 is thumb safety. The safety extends past the backstrap and irritates the web of my hand, between thumb and index finger. Even just handling the pistol a few minutes causes the irritation to begin. I took my Springfield Loaded .45 and compared it to the DW. The Springfield was like..........ahhhhhh. No irritation at all. When I look at 1911s online, I gravitate to the thumb safety to see how it fits in relation to the backstrap. I know a production pistol can vary a bit in the fit of the thumb safety, but I still like to take a look at the TS fit.

    Glad you are enjoying your DW!
    I agree about accuracy. I would not be able to appreciate anything better than my DW. So I can’t ever see me spending any more $$ than I did on this one. My thumb safety is ambi and neither side extends beyond grip safety. I looked at that and felt it before buying. One reason I won’t buy online.

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    Everyone has a different perception of tight. I’ve never seen a DW that was anything close to tight, but whatever.

    If a 1911 is built right, it won’t be tight by 1911 standards but people not familiar with them will think they’re like a bank vault. Those 1911s will be the most reliable. Sloppy does not in any way equal reliable.
    I freely admit I am just now getting experience with 1911s. When I started looking for my first one I had shot Remington R1 and a ROCK Island Armory, both owned by friends and both in 45 ACP. They both shot and functioned well. I started getting feedback from PF guys about the difference between the $700-900 pistols and a DW. I also wanted some features on my first 1911 that were not on the less expensive models (under $1000). I realize the Dan Wessons are not Les Baer’s, when it comes to tightness like “hard-fit” etc. With the Specialist I kind of expected an all steel pistol with all the nice features (night sights, magwell, front and back strap checkering, front slide serrations, ambi safety) but built like the less expensive pistols. After getting the DW, taking it apart, shooting it, it is actually built better IMO than the cheaper ones I had handled. When you assemble them there is a difference when installing the barrel bushing or slide stop. I actually measured the slide-frame clearance at 0.001”. I know there are pistols out there much tighter. But some of the Les Baer owners complain about the difficulty of taking the pistol apart because it’s so tight. So in all my ignorance I am a DW fan for now. I do like the idea of having a pistol made just for me (full custom). I like hearing that guy from Alchemy (Rob, I believe) talk about how he builds 1911s. I think the reputation Les Baer has is nice for being so tight. And I believe you have had many high dollar 1911s so I believe you if you say DWs aren’t that tight. When choosing my first 1911 and assuming I would never get another, the majority of the feedback from PF was it is hard to beat DW. So that’s what I got. I am very pleased at this point. And I appreciate your experience and all the others here at PF.

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    Baer guns exhibit barrel springing, which is part of the reason a new Baer's slide is hard to rack. While the five-inch guns will wear into a fit, it is not uncommon for Baer pistols to shear barrel lugs, even with the private-labeled Kart barrel. I have seen strong men struggle to rack the slide on a new Baer. It is due to poor barrel fit. The springing can be shown by taking a new Baer in one hand with the finger of the palm wrapped around the slide and the thumb around the grip safety. While closing the fingers down and towards the thumb, use the thumb to press on the grip safety. Voila, the barrel has unlocked from the slide and the slide moves freely.

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    That sounds complicated.

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    I'm a long time 1911 user, but I'm not a 1911 snob.

    I've owned a DW Valor for several years and I've dealt with a lot of Baers, Wilsons, Browns, etc. If I wanted something truly better than a DW, I'd bypass all of those semi-production boutique brands and go with a true one-off custom build. When compared to a DW, the additional cost of those guns simply isn't justified.

    Your Specialist has nothing to apologize for, it's a solid piece.
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