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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Check this Mastermind "Specialist Covert" belt which you can wear with an existing holster in NPEs or with clothes like gym attire, (as I'm doing as I type this).

    https://www.mastermindtactics.com/sh...cialist-covert

    It may offer a simple solution to your situation. I just got mine in yesterday and am quite pleased with how well it works.

    (Mastermind Tactics is a P-F supporting business.)
    Now that is interesting, I was just on the website this week but didn't realoze how that belt was used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octagon View Post
    This is inexpensive and the most minimalist design I have found.

    https://www.bastiongear.com/products...r-glock-models

    Using it attached inside the smart carry holster with a rivet or bolt through the lanyard hole would be one way. Another would be to attach kevlar shoe lace (much thinner and stronger than paracord) to the lanyard hole in the holster then the other end gets attached to the main button on your pants then run through the top of the zipper in the fly. Pretty much invisible even staring directly at it and no worries about retention moving the holster and Smartcarry rig up when drawing. This provides real trigger protection and better security/retention in a Smartcarry with no extra bulk.
    Very cool, never thought about using thinner cord and being able to tie it in a way that can't be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westtexasrancher View Post
    Now that is interesting, I was just on the website this week but didn't realize how that belt was used.
    I've tried the same concept with the thinnest of my early version Mastermind belts from a few years back. It works, but the nylon has no grip and the belt will rotate or move too easily under the clothing.

    This belt works great. It "grabs" the material it is fitted over. If you don't wear a t-shirt, and can place it low enough to place over the wide band of your underwear, that works well too.

    (That's how I'm using mine at the moment. Affixed over the underwear, gym shorts over it, and a t-shirt worn outside the shorts. Of course, I could tuck the t-shirt as well.)

    It's simple...doesn't require a new holster, and works.
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    I used one for about a year before I got an enigma with a sig 365 and a Glock 43. I understand the concern but once the gun is in their the gun is not going to go off. You shouldn’t ever holster the firearm while wearing it.

    If you’re really concerned with it put an unloaded firearm in it and try to see if you can cause the striker to drop.

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    I used a smartcarry for so long that there was more repair thread on it than original, and finally it totally gave up. I bought a couple of new ones. Someone else owns the company than when I bought my first one.

    The enigma may be better. I look forward to trying it out.

    A G26 with an SCD in a smartcarry works very well, but it can bulge oddly, depending on actual gun position, gut, belt, and pants. I have had success with a G19x in the same holster with less odd bulging because it puts the grip and back end of the slide behind the belt, anchoring it and keeping those parts of the gun most prone to bulges and printing in a better place. Of course, an untucked shirt must cover the belt line in this case, and can be used to cover odd bulges with the G26 as well. I have tried the RCS trigger guard with it, and it works, but it is fiddly. With 4 layers of canvas from the smartcarry actually covering the outside of the trigger guard, plus your pants, I don’t the see the risk in going without the RCS. If you do, then I’d say go with the trigger guard.

    I prefer using a smaller, lighter gun in mine due to spine issues and the fact that I’m usually planning on being active or needing extremely low profile/NPE level of discreet carry when I’m wearing this holster, and usually go with a 642 or G42. I am currently wearing it, in fact, with the G42 and a spare magazine under dad shorts, and will probably do yard work and play tennis today while wearing it under these shorts.

    Approaching 20 years of use of these holsters now, I have worked out some best practices for myself for use.

    What I do: I put on my boxers. I put on the smartcarry. I open the mouth of the smartcarry with my off-side thumb. I pick up my loaded gun, put my thumb on the SCD, and bring it across my abdomen pointed at the floor, muzzle parallel to the abdomen and thumb, carefully slide the muzzle into the wide-open mouth of the pouch - all angled away from my bits - and slide it home. Then I put on my pants.

    After that, I don’t mess with it. I don’t touch or do any practice draws with a live gun in this holster. I don’t use it at the range for live fire, but might be wearing it while shooting other guns. If I go to the bathroom, I *can* use a urinal, but it is a little awkward to slide the gun aside for access to the underwear fly and other gun, so I usually use a stall and sit. Slide the holster up higher on the abdomen while sitting to take care of business, slide it back down after boxers are back in place and put things back where they were.

    What I do works for me, and may work for someone else. Or you may think I’m going to blow a hole in my junk/femoral artery.

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    JMCK offers an Enigma shell that may work
    well, secured in a Smart Carry.

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    Seeing as this is obviously a really big deal, why not just drop the extra $100 on an eBay enigma with a good holster and be done with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffhughes View Post
    Seeing as this is obviously a really big deal, why not just drop the extra $100 on an eBay enigma with a good holster and be done with it?
    One reason why is that it might not be the ideal solution for him. You can't just make that assumption, imho.
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    Tie off the cord trough the bottom of the SmartCarry so when you draw the gun the trigger guard pulls off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Johnson View Post
    Mount a holster in the smart carry. I think DSG makes a kydex with no belt clips for this.

    I took the belt clip off a blade tech. Rivet the holster to the smart carry.

    Thinner guns are more comfortable.

    OR a use gun with a safety.....
    We used to. Most of the time an old holster works fine, but it doesn't resolve the belt issue like wearing a floppy belt under everything else does, though the Smart Carry does lower the pistol. The Enigma is probably the end game here, as @runcible and I have gone back and forth over the underbelt thing for over a decade now and it addresses the deficiencies found for a lot of users.
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