Defunding the police in Atlanta

[DDTSGM]

You're missing the tiger in the grass. It's not the civil liberties, or the tax money, or any of that. It's that he's promoting government being in charge of raising children. All children. And I'd point out to him that juvenile delinquency exists because people don't have the luxury of jobs that allow them to be there to raise their kids. Cities have become so inhospitable to normal folk--the schools as well as general law enforcement--that nobody with any economic mobility wants to live there. They'd rather spend 1-2 hours a day driving, which in turn moves the businesses that they frequent out to the suburbs and prevents folks stuck in the city from having any economic freedom.

I find it extremely frustrating to hear people talk about whatever the latest "omigod the cops did whuuuut, he/she was only 14", and then turn around and dispatch a couple cops to handle a verbal domestic between a parent and a 13-year-old. It's one of two calltypes I'm sick of handling, and the other one is "I Saw A Black Guy".

we are singing in the same choir. i was referencing the he's promoting government being in charge of raising children. All children when i mentioned the Zionist kibbutz lifestyle and civil liberties.

I do believe it takes a village to raise kids. A village that's willing to snatch up miscreants and hold them for the police, or take them home to dad. A village that is willing to talk with each other about their kids and help each other out. A village that's elders are willing to invest in the kids by coaching, teaching sports, camping and industrial skills.

Hmm. kind of like LaCrosse Kansas, where I started out, and the neighborhoods I Lived in in Lincoln, NE. That was probably done in the mid - 70's.

[RoyGBiv]

Didn't want to start a new thread.... @blues

‘Staffing Crisis’: Shrinking Police Force Will No Longer Respond To Some Crimes In Liberal NC City That Cut Funding

The Asheville Police Department (APD) on Wednesday announced a list of crimes and services they are no longer equipped to address, such as some forms of theft and assault, according to local outlet WLOS.

In a Wednesday press release, the APD explained they have lost 84 officers since January 1, 2020, which is a devastating number for a force that employs just 219 people.

• Theft under $1,000 where there is no suspect information (this does not include stolen vehicles or guns)
• Theft from a vehicle where there is no suspect information
• Minimal damage and/or graffiti to property where there is no suspect information
• Non-life-threatening harassing phone calls (does not include incidents that are related to domestic violence and/or stalking)
• Fraud, scams, or identity theft
• Simple assaults that are reported after they have occurred
• Reports that do not require immediate police actions and/or enforcement (information only reports)
• Funeral escorts
• Lost/found property
• Trespassing where the property owner does not want to press charges

[blues]

@RoyGBiv

Sounds like utopia to me. (Praise the heavens that I don't live there.)

[Shotgun]

Didn't want to start a new thread.... @blues

‘Staffing Crisis’: Shrinking Police Force Will No Longer Respond To Some Crimes In Liberal NC City That Cut Funding

@RoyGBiv

Sounds like utopia to me. (Praise the heavens that I don't live there.)

Wow. Here is another similar article regarding the San Francisco DA's refusal to prosecute. Crime is exploding, and even in liberal San Fran there is a push to recall him.

https://unherd.com/2021/06/san-franc...ive-nightmare/

[jh9]

Wow. Here is another similar article regarding the San Francisco DA's refusal to prosecute. Crime is exploding, and even in liberal San Fran there is a push to recall him.

https://unherd.com/2021/06/san-franc...ive-nightmare/

Doesn't cite its sources for that data. This is AFAIK straight from the horse's mouth: https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/s...rime-dashboard YTD 2021. The 2020/2019 comparison wasn't all that different.

I don't see an "explosion" in that data. Which is not to be interpreted as any sort of approval for Boudin... but according to the SF Gate his supporters are raising more money than his detractors in the recall so I wouldn't call that recall a done deal.

I'm sure the bay area posters can provide their first hand opinion on the matter.

[SCCY Marshal]

"Theft under $1,000 where there is no suspect information"

So, take peanuts from the rich but two weeks to a month's livelihood from actual labor, tough beans unless you saw the perp. Take something worth more than the average person even owns, be in your gated community lickety split for an after-fact investigation. Because leftism is about making empty lip service toward the proletariat while entrenching the power of the upper classes because feudalism never died, it just got a new name...I mean, equity.

[Shotgun]

"Theft under $1,000 where there is no suspect information"

Dallas DA has taken a similar position.
"Theft of Necessary Items Study after study shows that when we arrest, jail, and convict people for non-violent crimes committed out of necessity, we only prevent that
person from gaining the stability necessary to lead a law-abiding life. Criminalizing poverty is counter-productive for our community's health and safety. For that reason, this
office will not prosecute theft of personal items less than $750 unless the evidence shows that the alleged theft was for economic gain."

[RoyGBiv]

@RoyGBiv

Sounds like utopia to me. (Praise the heavens that I don't live there.)

I'm afraid the NC I loved will not resemble the NC I left, when I return in a few years. Even Coach K is moving on.

[Jim Watson]

Dallas DA has taken a similar position.
"Theft of Necessary Items Study after study shows that when we arrest, jail, and convict people for non-violent crimes committed out of necessity, we only prevent that
person from gaining the stability necessary to lead a law-abiding life. Criminalizing poverty is counter-productive for our community's health and safety. For that reason, this
office will not prosecute theft of personal items less than $750 unless the evidence shows that the alleged theft was for economic gain."

This implies that there will be investigation to determine the disposition of stolen goods.
Let us say that Joe Mope steals my watch and is shown definitely to have done so.
If he wears it so he gets to his low paying job, that is ok; but if he sells it to buy booze it is not, right?
OK, in the first case, what if I locate him and steal my watch back? What does the DA have for me?
In the second case, will it be on the pawn shop hot list so I might recover it from there?

[blues]

Is this a great country or what?