It’s not like we have a problem with elected Sheriffs down here and the following are not links to a lot of Sheriffs from around the state who have ended up being charged with various crimes in the last 10 years. I’m pretty sure there isn’t a duplicate name in any of those links.
https://www.al.com/news/2021/03/ex-a...iff-funds.html
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2...al-prison.html
https://www.al.com/news/2018/08/greg..._franklin.html
https://www.al.com/news/montgomery/2...n-charges.html
https://www.al.com/live/2013/07/feds...on_county.html
https://www.al.com/news/tuscaloosa/2...nd-scheme.html
https://www.al.com/news/2019/08/lime...stigation.html
https://www.al.com/news/tuscaloosa/2...f_arreste.html
https://www.al.com/news/2018/04/ana_...er_warden.html
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Also, Alabama went for a while with a carry permit deemed sufficient to buy a gun without NICS call.
Until it turned out that one sheriff was not doing much background check, so now it is back to call the feds.
Code Name: JET STREAM
I believe this racks up there with not a danger to society, cops and all that blood in the streets stuff, but more of a how deep a legal hole one digs for himself by not taking the time to understand the laws of the land.
My last renewal was online. I checked the box that I read and understood the law updates. Not a lot of dedication to teaching the legal updates. I’ll see what the renewal looks like next time round. I still have 2 years to go.
Seriously, there are many states that have constitutional carry. How has their crime changed as a result of constitutional carry? I’m guessing not much or we would be hearing about all carnage 24/7/365
I think the biggest beneficiaries of constitutional carry aren’t “gun people” and the 2A crowd. It’s the poor folks who actually live in shitty neighborhoods and can’t affiord the time or money for a class. Those same people are also far more likely than the average member of PF to be a victim of violent crime.
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"But one method requires you to actually read and understand the law at least to a minimum level. The other does not."
Requiring instruction on the legalities of force, basic safety, and maybe marksmanship seem like no-brainer common sense requirements. But in counterpoint, here in WA we have had shall issue CCW since the early 1960's, and have no training requirement at all. You pay the fee, get fingerprinted, and you get the permit. And in the decades I have lived here, I almost never hear of incidents where that training might have kept a CCW'er from doing something stupid (for example, someone who shot a fleeing purse snatcher in the back and then said 'but I thought it was OK'). Mostly, you just don't hear about people with permits doing bad things at all.
The closest I recall was a college kid who got his permit on his 21st birthday, and later that night did a drunken drive-by on a rival frat house. I suppose you can argue that he wouldn't have done that, if only he'd had to take a class that stressed that drive-by's weren't, strictly speaking, OK.
As an aside, I do think there is an advantage to having permits, vs constitutional carry. I have heard a number of people over the years say things like 'I'm going to be careful (about some legal thing) because I don't want to lose my permit'. And that's a little silly - in WA, the only way to lose your permit is to do something that will make you a federally prohibited person, which makes losing the permit kind of moot. But I think that 'I'm going to be careful' attitude is a benefit of having a permit system.
The downside, of course, is if someone who never thought they might need a permit needs one right now. Some jurisdictions in WA deliberately drag out the process for a few months. Constitutional carry at least fixes that problem.