Most honest thing posted on the internet today.Originally Posted by JRB
Most honest thing posted on the internet today.
It is very simple, do not try and get your info from reddit or even here, it's just the same BS repeated over and over, by losers who read something from someone who heard that someone read something someone heard. Look at the people who have reputations for honest reviews, Or who actually own them, you will not find them talking about bendy or damaged rails. Geissele's SD (with that rail) has a very good rep to those who know or own. This is an old rumor that won't die. You are suckers if you listen to fools.
UNDERSTANDING HANDGUARD FLEX AND POINT OF IMPACT SHIFT FOR LASER AIMING DEVICES
- A write up by Nocturnality
https://www.nocturnalitygear.com/resources/
>do not try and get your info from reddit or even here
>Or who actually own them, you will not find them talking about bendy or damaged rails
So... how do you read the reviews of folks that actually own them if you don't use social media or forums?
Geissele's had a lot of missteps in the past years, they no longer deserve to be trusted to be good to go based purely on reputation. I wouldn't steer people away from Geissele, but Geissele having issues wouldn't really surprise me, either.
That test is pretty fucking terrible, IMO, and provides very little useful data. n = 1 for each handguard, we don't have any specs on how each upper was assembled, and the whole testing regime in general was fucking wack given it it relies on the skills of the shooter, the ammo, the ability (or lack thereof) to maintain consistent pressure, etc. Would be way easier with much less variables to simply just throw an upper in a vice, zero a laser at some distance, apply pressure to the handguard, and see how much the laser moves.
Beyond that, the deflection wasn't really the source of the kerfuffle with the MK16s, but the allegations of POA/POI shifts after impact.
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Checking dates before responding to posts on established forums is a decent idea, too.
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I try not to get caught up in these little contests but it would be nice if we had some real data from both sides to back up these discussions rather than he said, she said.
-Seconds Count. Misses Don't-
The real data is that all the claims about contracts being cancelled never came to be, and that the handguard can be seen in use when the Army releases pics of SF and 75th RR soldiers. The whole hullabaloo came from 1 broken handguard and everything online since has been highly speculative or outright falsehood.
This one is funny to me because when the ar15.com thread got deleted it became a game of telephone. I think if Geissele had left it up and simply addressed the issue in the thread it would have been a non-issue.
The biggest problem the whole thing was Bill’s handling of it rather than any deficiency in the product.
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