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    What's an Assault Rifle?

    Remember that when someone says assault rifle or weapon for a semi AR, folks have fits of definitional OCD. Gun folks tried MSR as a palliative to mitigate the evil of guns. They are really sporting toys. Some media and antis switched to military styled semiautomatic rifles to avoid the angry emails and tweets about definitions. Note it is very important to distinguish between fully auto and semi as idiots get confused. However, trying to downplay the lethality of semis is foolish - as a Guns and Ammo video once tried to do. Blah, blah.

    So I see this on the Internet and what can I say.

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    Minis have avoid ban laws but they are catching the attention of banners in Canada and Norway in particular, after rampages there. So if you have a blazing assault rifle - beware.

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    I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this, Glenn. Of course the anti-gun folks will find new ways to blame or ban shit they exempted previously or just didn't notice. Look at the Cali microstamping BS for all LE guns being pushed now.

    Terminology has changed a lot on a lot of things since March of 1980, the least of which is '45 auto', 'blazing assault rifle' or 'auto shotgun'.

    I did chuckle a little bit at the 'Is the 45 auto dead!??!?' According to my HK45C and stash of 230grn Gold Dots, it's still alive and well, 41 years after that magazine was published.

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    Arguments and concerns over this terminology are really pointless. The left has adopted these terms and put them into common parlance. Regardless of the strict definition, we all know what "assault rifle" means in 2021, blazing or otherwise. Time to find another hill.
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    I wasn't making a cosmic point. I just thought it was ironic given the debates about terms. I ditched my noncompliant AR for a nice stainless, synthetic stocked mini when I moved. I'm toying with a compliant NY AR - the two options are not optimal, weird stock, naked but removable mags (10 rounds) vs. normal looking with a weird fixed mag. Rooting for Scotus to wipe all that out - fat chance.

    I loved my good old Olympic Arms AR with an Eotech, shot a match with only 3 points down! About 50 targets all together. Time, glacial for FOG.

    As far as the 45 - there are still threads going on whether it is dead. Just bought 200 rounds of expensive 230 gr FMJ, but the bite wasn't that bad as I had credit card points I could use (so it wasn't real money - extremely financial genius, am I!). I am reluctant to spend $100 bucks for a single stack match. But I dropped $100 for dinner for the two of us - so maybe.

    AWBs and mag bans drive me nuts as they are so antithetical to gun rights - but what else is new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    Arguments and concerns over this terminology are really pointless. The left has adopted these terms and put them into common parlance. Regardless of the strict definition, we all know what "assault rifle" means in 2021, blazing or otherwise. Time to find another hill.
    Yep, I think Merriam-Webster changed the definition a couple years ago to include firearms that are not fully automatic but have “military”features.

    Always helpful when you have the definers of language on your side......
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    It's any rifle you use to assault someone. Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suvorov View Post
    I do love me some Mini-14 porn in the morning!
    And not the softcore Mini-14 porn, either. Full stocked Mini-14 porn. Off to GunBroker...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suvorov View Post
    Yep, I think Merriam-Webster changed the definition a couple years ago to include firearms that are not fully automatic but have “military”features.

    Always helpful when you have the definers of language on your side......
    I guess they went with the “in common use” standard for the definition. /S

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    So I get this in my email today:

    https://americancop.com/fighting-rif...er-pc-carbine/

    Fighting Rifle? Terms, terms.

    I dunno - BTW, I truly like my Ruger fighting rifle. Waiting for outdoor matches to run it as PCC. I guess my focus is that it is a matter of time before these sort of semis get banned unless there is some court or legislative preventive action. We recall that Las Vegas almost produced such a ban, or so the story goes - till the bump stock diversionary tactic lured he who must not be named away.

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