“The reliability of the 30-06 on most of the world’s non-dangerous game is so well established as to be beyond intelligent dispute.” Finn Aagaard
"Don't fuck with it" seems to prevent the vast majority of reported issues." BehindBlueI's
Excellent book and an innovative thinker. As many here may know, Mr. Cirillo collaborated with "Fuzzy" Fletcher, of then the Village Metalworks, iirc. Fuzzy produced the .38 spl "Safe Stop" round using a plated DEWC. My chrono date from 2005 showed these rounds at an average of 720 fps from my 1992 era J fame S&W model 640. I got these rounds from Gomez and still have a couple of hundred.
I corresponded with Fuzzy way back then, great guy. And very helpful.
I would imagine the 850 fps Buffalo Bore would be quite snappy in a J frame or my LCR. In a K frame or L frame sized gun? Should be nice.
I've considered working something like this (Plated DEWC) up in .357 for my 686. Might dig out the books and the chrono and see what shakes.
I've seen data using Unique, Red Dot, Green Dot, and Bullseye for these. No harm in trying.
Choice Ammunition used to sell a copper plated double ended wadcutter load. I just checked and it is no longer listed on their site. They do show a hard cast hi-tek coated wadcutter that I believe is double ended. It is available for backorder. Pricing has certainly gone up a bit since I last purchased some in December of 2018.
The first indication a bad guy should have that I'm dangerous is when his
disembodied soul is looking down at his own corpse wondering what happened.
X-Treme Bullets has a copper-plated DEWC, I've loaded about 500 rounds with it.
I picked up 3k of the Rainier plated DEWCs when Midway was blowing them out. Should have gotten more.
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"Gunfighting is a thinking man's game. So we might want to bring thinking back into it."-MDFA
Beware of my temper, and the dog that I've found...
Full charge is a new term for me. I should have put it in quotation marks. The term is imprecise. Best practice dictates that we discuss loads in terms of acceptable pressure which is defined.
I began reloading in the 1960's. Since then, manuals over time have presented much more conservative data. Hercules manufactured the dot powders and others like Unique and Bulleye for decades. Then in the not too distant past Alliant bought Hercules. My batch is a Hercules product. I have never used an Alliant powder.
I never should have posted the 3.5 Bullseye load for the same reason that I don't post other favorites which violate today's best practices. You see, truth changes. It changes because data change, and their interpretation changes. Said another way, what was "true" in 1969 may not have been "true" in 2019.
My copy of Lyman's Pistol and Revolver Handbook (copyright '78) shows 4.1 grains of Bullseye as a max standard pressure load for #358495, which is a plain base wadcutter. You can blow the skirt off an HBWC with that charge, and current data assumes that you're loading HBWCs for liability purposes. 3.5 grains wouldn't be a problem with plain base WCs; Speer's #14 shows 3.1 grains of Bullseye as a max for their HWBC.
No, truth doesn't change. We just get better information. "The best we knew in 1969" is still "the best we knew in 1969" just like it was then. But we have better measuring equipment, so we know better now.
Maybe my point is that it's best to take the approach of, "This is the best we know now," rather than, "This is The Truth!"
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