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    Visually and mentally fatiguing means you’re doing it right, IMO.

    I generally only run classifiers in practice twice for that reason. I treat them as a test / proof of concept rather than practice.

    You passed the test with flying colors. Best to stop after two successful runs otherwise you burn in bad runs and sloppy runs.

    Celebrate the successes on the tests but don’t get greedy.

    Fatigue is real and should be respected.

    So consider stopping earlier and convert to partial drills that augment the concepts you’re working on.

    All IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    @ClusterfrackSo consider stopping earlier and convert to partial drills that augment the concepts you’re working on.
    This is good advice, and something I do often. A good run CM18-07 likely requires calling a hit predictively on steel and immediately initiating a reload. At least that's what I identified as the weakest part of my runs (1.2-1.40s reload). So I spent some practice time starting with a shot on steel, and then reload to the open target. That led me back to dryfire to work on getting my grip done earlier after the reload.

    I think what we're both talking about is how to use a drill most effectively, and that includes a lot more than hit factor or par time.

    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    Best to stop after two successful runs otherwise you burn in bad runs and sloppy runs.
    This is an interesting thing to discuss. I don't agree. I like to train to failure, and find that the ways I fail tell me a lot. I don't worry about 'burning in' bad technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    This is an interesting thing to discuss. I don't agree. I like to train to failure, and find that the ways I fail tell me a lot. I don't worry about 'burning in' bad technique.
    I am happy to discuss.

    I think training to failure is a good thing. But in the general sense for training and matches. You want to have a broad training so you can perform under any circumstance.

    HOWEVER… for something like a classifier or if you were competing perhaps for a national title in steel challenge you wouldn’t necessarily practice after chopping wood for 3 hours beforehand, right?

    So my burn in advice is strictly limited to ultimate timing and mind’s eye “perfect best life run” visualization for Hundos for classifiers and other stylized runs.

    Practice and dry fire for sure I train to failure. But I don’t have expectations of performance for those scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    @Clusterfrack

    Visually and mentally fatiguing means you’re doing it right, IMO.

    I generally only run classifiers in practice twice for that reason. I treat them as a test / proof of concept rather than practice.

    You passed the test with flying colors. Best to stop after two successful runs otherwise you burn in bad runs and sloppy runs.

    Celebrate the successes on the tests but don’t get greedy.

    Fatigue is real and should be respected.

    So consider stopping earlier and convert to partial drills that augment the concepts you’re working on.

    All IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    This is an interesting thing to discuss. I don't agree. I like to train to failure, and find that the ways I fail tell me a lot. I don't worry about 'burning in' bad technique.
    This should be is a new thread. I’m somewhere between both of y’all in my thoughts on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballoflaco View Post
    This should be is a new thread. I’m somewhere between both of y’all in my thoughts on this.
    New thread on this topic created.
    Last edited by Clusterfrack; 07-16-2021 at 05:11 PM.
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