Daunte Wright shooting Brooklyn MN

[ccmdfd]

Haven't we learned post Ferguson that facts no longer matter?

Facts are so Dragnet Era.

This is 2021!

[blues]

Only if the revolution is televised.

I love you man...

I never get tired of Gil Scott Heron

[RoyGBiv]

Haven't we learned post Ferguson that facts no longer matter?

I was just answering a question that I wasn't sure wasn't rhetorical.

[blues]

I was just answering a question that I wasn't sure wasn't rhetorical.

I wasn't calling you out, bro, it was simply an opportunity to get that card on the table.

[Wyoming Shooter]

I'm honestly confused. Because due process is a legal term that doesn't apply to firing someone.

Do you mean process in the general sense or legitimately Constitutional Due Process?

Due process can also apply to a firing if the government employee has a property interest in his job.

[RoyGBiv]

I wasn't calling you out, bro, it was simply an opportunity to get that card on the table.

No worries Blues.

I'm in non confrontation mode since my pointless kerfuffle on Nextdoor

[RevolverRob]

Process in a general sense; the opposite of purely arbitrary ("Because I said so") decisions.

Okay, that's what I thought.

I get where you're coming from in regards to this.

Part of me just sees this as damage control. I'm never surprised when people are fired over things like this anymore.

I get where you're coming from, "Shouldn't we wait until the facts are in, before acting?" - Totally with you, data driven as opposed to emotionally driven policy.

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The point I was making earlier - that I wasn't directing at anyone in particular. I just found it funny, because some folks here have some cognitive dissonance regarding mob rule and anarchy.

When the mob is mad about a citizen being wrongfully shot by a police officer, i.e. a violation of that citizen's rights, the politicians who cave to the mob are wrong.

When the mob is mad about violation of a citizen's rights (gun laws) and the politicians don't cave to the mob, then the politicians who don't cave are wrong.

When is the mob wrong? (This is rhetorical...)

[Hot Sauce]

Even more than Taser shaping and holster locations, the point that was brought up by the video host was the amount of stress the officer felt herself appeared disproportinate to the actual situation.

A suspect with a history of having guns on him illegally, who dives back into the car after realizing he's about to be placed under arrest, could be up to anything. Could be going to put the car in drive and flee. Or could be going for that weapon to practice the Mozambique drill on the officer's face.

If you don't remember this particular incident below, it was discussed before in a different thread. Watch it all the way through and you'll see the similarities.

Tulsa shooting of two police officers

I certainly fault her for shooting someone with a lethal weapon when she meant to use a non-lethal.

But was she wrong to be hyped up? That area of operations could very bad for all we know.

[RJ]

The appeasement continues and will not work.


https://twitter.com/@twitter/status/1382036033886425089

Good lord. I mean, my jaw can only drop so far.



This is the elected Mayor in the city in which this took place, right? So I can only assume that he’s supported by a majority of the local populace. Given that, maybe this community wants to disarm their Police doing felony stops?

I wonder how that’s going to work out.

[blues]

The point I was making earlier - that I wasn't directing at anyone in particular. I just found it funny, because some folks here have some cognitive dissonance regarding mob rule and anarchy.

When the mob is mad about a citizen being wrongfully shot by a police officer, i.e. a violation of that citizen's rights, the politicians who cave to the mob are wrong.

When the mob is mad about violation of a citizen's rights (gun laws) and the politicians don't cave to the mob, then the politicians who don't cave are wrong.

When is the mob wrong? (This is rhetorical...)

Disagree with both your initial assessment...and your conclusion where you're equating a procedural and judgmental error by an individual with tragic results, i.e. a mistake, with the willful and intentional denial of rights.

Not the same thing.