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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    So is "the issued magazine of the USMC" now a GI mag?

    The link I posted earlier will ship M3 mags with a #23 in the little circle indicating rev #, so it addresses the second round issue.
    Thatís good to know... Iíve seen some that have other numbers - like ď27Ē.
    Anyone know of a good reference to decoding the markings, and what changed with each revision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suvorov View Post
    I recall the Brownells aluminum mags being highly regarded as well. Due to my state of residence, Iíve been limited as to what I had pre 2000 and what was available during those windows I could acquire or build new magazines so I run a fairly eclectic assortment. I have had zero issues with my Pmag 2nd Gen or any aluminum mags Iíve upgraded with green it magpul followers (even my Adventure Line). Heck, Iíve even had good luck with Canadian Thermolds I bought back in 1994 (I just donít leave them loaded).

    The Lancers look sexy and I like their hybrid material design. If I was starting from scratch they would be tempting but Iíd probably just go with P Mags or Brownells, whichever was cheaper.

    The only mags Iíve had issues with when new were aluminum magazines modified to hold only 10 rounds or factory 10 round shorties. While Iíve had a few used GI mags (crime Bill era gun show specials) - they have been few and far between.

    You thinking more Colorado restrictions or Federal?
    Both.
    Luckily I acquired plenty of PMAGs and a few others when I saw the state limits coming.
    Just wondering if I chose wisely, since they may have to last me a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GyroF-16 View Post
    Thatís good to know... Iíve seen some that have other numbers - like ď27Ē.
    Anyone know of a good reference to decoding the markings, and what changed with each revision?
    This might help:

    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....-created-equal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerrero View Post
    Good stuff - thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default.mp3 View Post
    Same source told me that ETS uses ether sulfones, so are rather soft and have "grit problems" (which I assume to mean that grit will wear them down quickly),
    Could also mean the grit gets embedded in them and increases the wear on any part that moves past it, or makes the follower sticky in a way that's hard to address by cleaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    So is "the issued magazine of the USMC" now a GI mag?

    The link I posted earlier will ship M3 mags with a #23 in the little circle indicating rev #, so it addresses the second round issue.
    I donít know and donít care.
    I have enough GI mags to last me through rahowa.
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    In order of preference:

    1) Gen M3 (post 2016)
    2) Gen M2
    3) Legit tan follower GI
    4) Legit green or Magpul follower GI

    Those are the ONLY mags I will use and things have to get really weird for me to not be using the #1 mags. I consider every other mag to be unacceptable as I have seen too many problems with them over the years.

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    All AR mags are disposables / consumables.

    We use a mix of Colt GI green follower mags and Gen2 PMags at work but are using Pmags going forward. We tested Lancers 5 or 6 years ago and found no real advantage over Pmags.

    Iíve personally had great results with the Brownells GI mags.

    Iím personally primarily going with Gen 3 Pmags going forward. The Gen 3 Coyote mags are the issued mag for both the USMC and USAF going forward.

    One advantage to Gen3 Pmags, besides fixing the double feed issue is the over insertion stop. In a recent Green Ops carbine class I watched a guy on track for the fastest time in the El Prez drill over insert a Gen 2 and lock up his rifle such that it took 2 people to clear.

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    I live in a location where we swim in a sea of cheap AR magazines, due to the base and the number of shops selling new and slightly used mags. I regularly use all variants of the PMAG but mostly the Gen 3's and primarily the MCT mags, though many of the Black ones have been showing up around town recently. I also have a lifetime supply of GI mags of both the green follower (Colt and Okay Industries) and brown follower (Brownells)variety, all work fine. I also have about 100 of the brown metal mags with Blue followers that were designed for M855A1 before we decided to just go with M3 PMags. I like to use them for odd stuff, like 77 Gn match rounds or .300 Blkout as they work well with the heavier weights of those rounds and they are very different looking than the other mags. I have a bunch of the old Tango Down mags that were given to me by Pat Rogers during various classes and they have always worked but I have never had a need to purchase them over something else. I like the the Lancers for use with UTM rounds and the dozen or so of those that I have are only used for force on force training with those UTM rounds.

    Currently if I felt the need to load up on more mags than I already have then I would likely just buy more USGI's from one of the surplus shops as here in town they average about 5 bucks a piece. "Pre owned" Pmag M3's are double that, or new in wrap gen3's triple....
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    I have a mix of PMAGs, OKAY Industries, D&H with their own floorplate and a dozen or so BCM labeled D&H mags, and probably a few from manufacturers whose name escapes me at the moment.

    I won't buy gen 2 PMAGs anymore, I have some that have grown over the years and no longer drop free, something I haven't experienced with any of the gen 3s. I picked up another 10 gen 3 MCT PMAGs the other day from the LGS, they were a little cheaper than any place online once you factor in shipping cost.
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