Bayonets on revolvers (WWI)

[BehindBlueI's]

I did not know this was a thing until today.

[Coyotesfan97]

I’ve never seen that before.

[BillSWPA]

Very interesting video.

More recently, LaserLyte made bayonets for mounting on pistols, including one that appears to mount on the dust cover rail, and another that mounted on the cylinder rod of a North American Arms mini revolver.


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[entropy]

It would certainly make cooking your bratwurst easier at the revolver BBQ...

You more than likely would have the grill to yourself too.

[Cheap Shot]

Makes sense.

Implementing that at my next ECQC or EWO class would be bold statement indeed.

[farscott]

My first thought was that bayonet spilled more English blood than German blood.

[DrkBlue]

Old Ian and his buddy Karl did a pretty good WWI trench warfare video a few years back (I watched it with my kid).

One of my big takeaways was the general negatives of fixed bayonets in trench warfare. The boys make some interesting observations, borne out in the vintage pictures of Sturmtruppen, Arditi and French trench raiders. They had knives and clubs, even short carbines, but fixed bayonets weren’t popular if you had better options based on the pictures.

I look at a .455 + bayonet in that vein. It was a compromise, but six + a stabby is better than 6 + 0 while eight feet deep in Flanders’ Fields.



I also have some .38/200 bringbacks that I have shot. Mediocre round but the breakopen revolver has a cachet when reloading. Flinging that frame open as the brass tumbles out is only equaled by the M1 Garand angrily PINGing out an exhausted clip... It makes a Colt or a Smith seem effete with the need for inversion and a tap.

[jtcarm]

Trench warfare led to some interesting improvisations.

[Bio]

Old Ian and his buddy Karl did a pretty good WWI trench warfare video a few years back (I watched it with my kid).

One of my big takeaways was the general negatives of fixed bayonets in trench warfare. The boys make some interesting observations, borne out in the vintage pictures of Sturmtruppen, Arditi and French trench raiders. They had knives and clubs, even short carbines, but fixed bayonets weren’t popular if you had better options based on the pictures.

I look at a .455 + bayonet in that vein. It was a compromise, but six + a stabby is better than 6 + 0 while eight feet deep in Flanders’ Fields.



I also have some .38/200 bringbacks that I have shot. Mediocre round but the breakopen revolver has a cachet when reloading. Flinging that frame open as the brass tumbles out is only equaled by the M1 Garand angrily PINGing out an exhausted clip... It makes a Colt or a Smith seem effete with the need for inversion and a tap.

Matt Easton of the scholagladatoria YouTube channel did a video on this as well, even though he mostly covers Victorian and older era swordfighting. His basic contention is that trenches are so close and packed that a bayonet on a rifle is so long and unwieldy, and it was easy to lose if you stabbed someone. A short club, knife, pistol, sword, etc. is easier to use in close confines. Supposedly, I am not a SME in trench fighting.

[Half Moon]

Matt Easton of the scholagladatoria YouTube channel did a video on this as well, even though he mostly covers Victorian and older era swordfighting. His basic contention is that trenches are so close and packed that a bayonet on a rifle is so long and unwieldy, and it was easy to lose if you stabbed someone. A short club, knife, pistol, sword, etc. is easier to use in close confines. Supposedly, I am not a SME in trench fighting.

Not an SME either but that fits with various things I've read. Specialist trench raider units from assorted nations preferred kitting out with small semiauto pistols, knives, and grenades.