Police reform bill passes in House

[jlw]

And think about the fact that there's a bill pending in the California legislature to remove felony convictions as an automatic disqualification for serving as a police officer. Ask yourself why they would do that.

That one is a head scratcher considering how anti-gun the government of California is. They’re going to give guns, and arrest authority, to felons.

Would they not still be prohibited possessors under federal law?

[AMC]

That one is a head scratcher considering how anti-gun the government of California is. They’re going to give guns, and arrest authority, to felons.

Not surprising at all when you realize convicted felons are an increasingly important constituency for the Democrats.

[AMC]

Would they not still be prohibited possessors under federal law?

You are correct, but I'll point out that California politicians generally don't let inconvenient federal laws get in their way. And I haven't read all the details of HR1. I know it restores voting rights to felons. Perhaps it deals with this issue as well.

[WobblyPossum]

Would they not still be prohibited possessors under federal law?

You are correct, but I'll point out that California politicians generally don't let inconvenient federal laws get in their way. And I haven't read all the details of HR1. I know it restores voting rights to felons. Perhaps it deals with this issue as well.

Yes they would still be prohibited under federal law, but CA wouldn’t be the first state with a provision allowing felons to have guns under state law regardless of being in conflict with the federal law.

[LJP]

At this point, it is immoral to recruit decent people to do police work. You are knowingly placing their lives in the hands of a mob and the most indecent people in the country, ie, politicians.
The People have spoken. Let them have what they want, good and hard.

I agree with feudist. My oldest son has talked some about going into law enforcement and while I try to maintain a certain objectivity with respect to the ideas he kicks around, I've really argued as strongly as I can against that idea. On the other hand, when the decent folk quit going into a field, it means only indecent fold wind up in it, and then things get much worse much faster.

Absolutely. I wouldn’t recommend anyone to pursue a LE job these days. My comment was meant more in the vein of people get the police that they vote for, a concept espoused by more than a few respected trainers/retired cops that I listen to and follow. Bolke and Haggard immediately come to mind. As the old curse goes, we are indeed living in interesting times.

[Hambo]

And think about the fact that there's a bill pending in the California legislature to remove felony convictions as an automatic disqualification for serving as a police officer. Ask yourself why they would do that.

Stupidity and ignorance. They need to read about the old days of police corruption.

[Erick Gelhaus]

Judas F Priest... this is looking more and more like a Kelly Turnbull novel with every passing month.

That's scary because it sure as hell looks to be spot on.

While I can't advocate being an active street cop to anyone, I can recommend the Marshal's Service, Dept of State Security, and DOE to people.

[Joe in PNG]

Judas F Priest... this is looking more and more like a Kelly Turnbull novel with every passing month.

I can’t argue with your advice. I’m just not happy about the situation, as a joe normal that likes to be out for entertainment and nightlife after dark, and who prefers to find his car where he left it each morning.

It’s a new, national “great experiment;” we shall see where it leads, and how things turn out over the next decade.

Florida resident Billy Bo Jim Bob handing off his 12th can of Bud to a crowd of bystanders in order to demonstrate an impromptu courageous feat of physical dexterity has put far more thought into the long term effects of his actions than the average California Democrat.

[Le Français]

That's scary because it sure as hell looks to be spot on.

While I can't advocate being an active street cop to anyone, I can recommend the Marshal's Service, Dept of State Security, and DOE to people.

As I’m sure you’re aware, the USMS does a lot of pretty high-liability stuff, not too different in that respect from street cops: A lot of arrests, handling prisoners, guarding cell blocks, etc. If getting sued is the concern, that might not be the obvious path of avoidance.

By DOE, do you mean Energy? The nuclear couriers, DOE OIG special agents, or something else? Just curious.

The courier jobs might be the US LE jobs least likely to involve UOF situations, so there’s that. Boring, and with demanding travel schedules, though.

[Erick Gelhaus]

As I’m sure you’re aware, the USMS does a lot of pretty high-liability stuff, not too different in that respect from street cops: A lot of arrests, handling prisoners, guarding cell blocks, etc. If getting sued is the concern, that might not be the obvious path of avoidance.

By DOE, do you mean Energy? The nuclear couriers, DOE OIG special agents, or something else? Just curious.

The courier jobs might be the US LE jobs least likely to involve UOF situations, so there’s that. Boring, and with demanding travel schedules, though.

How often are you seeing an individual Deputy US Marshal getting destroyed for doing their job? Even as a whole, with the exception of the summer's events in Portland, the USMS gets left alone. There's a difference between targeting with the ability to gather knowledge & plan vs everything being like a box of chocolates and getting what you get.

Yup, Dept of Energy.