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    The media is to blame...

    (Paring it down to essentials.)
    There's nothing civil about this war.

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    The media is to blame...

    (Paring it down to essentials.)
    And the collective "we" for buying in to their bullshit, not calling them out on it, and tuning in in the first place.

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    So, this is a summary of the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act I found on Wikipedia (most “news” articles don’t have any detail)


    Grant power to the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division to issue subpoenas to police departments as part of "pattern or practice" investigations into whether there has been a "pattern and practice" of bias or misconduct by the department

    Provide grants to state attorneys general to "create an independent process to investigate misconduct or excessive use of force" by police forces

    Establish a federal registry of police misconduct complaints and disciplinary actions

    Enhance accountability for police officers who commit misconduct, by restricting the application of the qualified immunity doctrine for local and state officers, and by changing the mens rea (intent) element of 18 U.S.C. § 242 (the federal criminal offense of "deprivation of rights under color of law," which has been used to prosecute police for misconduct) from "willfully" to "knowingly or with reckless disregard"

    Require federal uniformed police officers to have body-worn cameras

    Require marked federal police vehicles to be equipped with dashboard cameras.

    Require state and local law enforcement agencies that receive federal funding to "ensure" the use of body-worn and dashboard cameras.

    Restrict the transfer of military equipment to police (see 1033 program, militarization of police)

    Require state and local law enforcement agencies that receive federal funding to adopt anti-discrimination policies and training programs, including those targeted at fighting racial profiling

    Prohibit federal police officers from using chokeholds or other carotid holds (which led to the death of Eric Garner), and require state and local law enforcement agencies that receive federal funding to adopt the same prohibition

    Prohibit the issuance of no-knock warrants (warrants that allow police to conduct a raid without knocking or announcing themselves) in federal drug investigations, and provide incentives to the states to enact a similar prohibition.

    Change the threshold for the permissible use of force by federal law enforcement officers from "reasonableness" to only when "necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury."

    Mandate that federal officers use deadly force only as a last resort and that de-escalation be attempted, and condition federal funding to state and local law enforcement agencies on the adoption of the same policy.

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    Looks like most of the provisions affect Federal Law Enforcement. Or agencies that get Federal funding.

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    So, I’ve worked for one agency full time and three others part time in the last forty years.

    None of them have ever authorized the lateral vascular neck restraint as a technique.

    None of this agencies ever got “Federal funding”. They never participated in the 1033 program. We never hired any personnel under a COPS grant (although that option was investigated a little. Too many limitations) Once in a while they’d get a grant from the state Office of Justice equipment for body armor or cameras for the squad car or AEDs or radios or something. I presume that money originally came from the Feds. Does that count as “Federal Funding”?
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    FLEOA Denounces House’s Partisan Approach to Police Reform, Urges Members to Contact Senators to Push a Bipartisan Solution with Law Enforcement Input


    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    March 10, 2021

    Washington, D.C- Today, Larry Cosme, National President of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association (FLEOA) – the nation’s largest non-partisan, not-for-profit professional association representing nearly 30,000 federal law enforcement officers across 65 federal agencies—denounced the actions of the House of Representatives last week to ram through its partisan approach to police reform, the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, without allowing consideration of any amendments; without the input of federal, state, and local law enforcement stakeholder groups; and with only one hour of limited debate:

    “Last year as the nation debated the need for law enforcement reforms in the wake of the horrible death of George Floyd, FLEOA agreed that steps should be taken to increase the professionalization of law enforcement, increase accountability and openness, enhance training standards, and work to bring communities and law enforcement closer together,” said FLEOA President Larry Cosme. “In order to truly improve policing in our nation, law enforcement must be at the table. Their input is necessary to ensure any reforms are realistic, pragmatic, and targeted towards the needs not just the optics. Instead what we saw last year and, again last week, was that the House passed a partisan bill with no law enforcement input that includes unrealistic and dangerous provisions that undermine the law enforcement profession and make our communities more dangerous.”

    The George Floyd Justice in Policing Act of 2021 would:

    1) Eliminate Qualified Immunity for Law Enforcement Officers. Qualified immunity has a, often misunderstood, high bar for officers to receive and is the only protection law enforcement officers have from frivolous lawsuits.

    2) Ban federal officers from using deadly force except as a last resort to prevent imminent and serious injury or death to the officer or another person. This provision violates the Graham v. Connor Supreme Court tenants. The provision is also well beyond the National Consensus Policy on Use of Force, a practical use of force reform proposal FLEOA and other law enforcement organizations have supported.

    3) Create National Police Misconduct Registry that in essence violates officers due process rights and could become weaponized to target officers. This type of registry coupled with the impractical and uninformed use of force standards will deeply undermine law enforcement and deter reasonable actions to protect the public.

    4) Stop the transfer of equipment to law enforcement under 1033 Program. The majority of which is armor used as protection for law enforcement agencies during last summer and the January 6th Capitol riots.

    “Instead of conducting a real debate on the Democrat’s bill and the JUSTICE Act offered by Rep. Pete Stauber (R-MN), which had law enforcement input and addressed many of the above issues in a realistic and effective way, the House just passed a piece of legislation that accomplishes nothing of what is needed, defunds the police, and only further entrenches an anti-police dialogue,” Cosme said. “There are answers to law enforcement reforms that both the public and law enforcement have been calling for. However, in order to be effective, they must be realistic and receive law enforcement input. Passing legislation that is unrealistic and does not accomplish the goal of helping law enforcement professionalize is a waste of time.”

    FLEOA urges all members to contact their Senators as soon as possible to speak out against the Justice in Policing Act and to encourage a bipartisan solution that incorporates the views of all impacted stakeholders. Members can locate contact information for their two Senators by visiting this link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff22 View Post
    So, I’ve worked for one agency full time and three others part time in the last forty years.

    None of them have ever authorized the lateral vascular neck restraint as a technique.

    None of this agencies ever got “Federal funding”. They never participated in the 1033 program. We never hired any personnel under a COPS grant (although that option was investigated a little. Too many limitations) Once in a while they’d get a grant from the state Office of Justice equipment for body armor or cameras for the squad car or AEDs or radios or something. I presume that money originally came from the Feds. Does that count as “Federal Funding”?
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