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*quietly to self*"Why are you doing this???"
Okay, I'll bite. The OP's question initially seemed geared towards Solo movement in structures, while armed, correct? And whether 'Pieing' is a viable tactic in that context, versus more 'athletic' or 'dynamic' tactics based on movement? Several posters here, with a great deal of training and experience, have said that yes, in context it can be. Several posters have explained that tactics depend on situational context, and that what is applicable in one circumstance may not work in another. Many can succeed, and all can fail. The fact is that Solo 'Clearing' of a structure is a big shit sandwich, and you should avoid taking a bite unless lives are in danger.
The OP appears to disagree with that assessment, though exactly why (given the context qualifiers provided by other posters) is really not clear to me. Other than, "I don't agree. I think this is a better tactic." Cool, man. You do you. If that 'tactic' works better for you in your experience, drive on. Nobody is trying to convince you, they're simply stating what they do in the context of their training and experience. You seem to be trying to convince yourself, by convincing others. But maybe I'm wrong.
Several posters have inquired about your background, in an attempt to figure out where you're coming from. Several of those people have a great deal of training and experience in this subject, and have offered their thoughts based on that. You do not seem willing to offer yours, due to 'privacy', etc.
Lest I be called a hypocrite....I've been a cop for 29 years with one of the largest municipal agencies on the West Coast. I've worked the district with the highest concentration of violent crime west of the Mississippi, and possibly the most 'diverse' police district in the state (gang infested housing projects on one end, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein and the Getty Family on the other). Most of that career was spent in patrol, by choice, save for a stint in General Investigations (Robbery, Burglary, Agg. Assault). I was shot at 4 times as a patrolman, and had to drop the hammer myself. I have participated in "Armed movement in structures" in every type of structure you can imagine, residential and commercial. I was a Patrol and First Responder Tactics instructor for our department. I currently supervise the firearms training program for our department, where I am struggling desperately to drag our program kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. I do not believe I have all...or even most...of the answers, and regularly consult with my peers up and down the state about best practices, training methodologies, equipment, etc. Some of those dudes are also members here, by the way.
In answer to your question, the consensus answer basically boils down to "Sure....maybe....it depends." Without knowing you or your background, the direction of the conversation points to a lack of experience. Or at least that's how it comes across. I mean...a lot of these guys are trying to kind of agree with you, if you haven't caught that.
This thread in some ways reminds me of a recruit we had recently, who's known to another forum member here. Very good shooter, who's been shooting pretty seriously with some local guys for over a year. We do an 'In-House' course review with the recruits after the training, separate from the POST mandated 1-5 BS reviews they have to do. We ask for actual honest feedback from the recruits, and we've actually made changes to the program based on consistent themes we see in those reviews. This recruit was very honest in his review, and was appalled that we expected recruits to obtain the level of skill it took him a year to achieve in our 80 hour program. Point being that he entirely missed the point, and the program is not at all geared toward such an outcome (would that it was!). I think this kid has the makings of a good cop...but he hadn't quite grasped that being a good shooter is not the same thing as being a good cop. Maybe he has by now.
This is not to slam anyone for a lack of experience. We all started there, and there's always someone cleverer than yourself, to quote Merlin. But if you're missing when people are saying "Yeah sure, that could work, but maybe this too..."? I dunno, think about it.
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