Thanks!Originally Posted by Noah
Thanks!
I tried it, and it works ok. It also causes malfunctions.
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All of my LPVO experience has been doing local three gun matches, not ever used one hunting, but some of the match directors set up some pretty pesky target arrays, and I think I am going to put one on a hunting gun at some point. The ability to have a RDO mimic seems like it would be handy, and I find myself using 2x-3x more than I thought I would.
And IMO another advantage of having a 6x option instead of a RDO, that would be applicable on a hunting gun, is to get a more precise 50yd or 100yd zero.
Tell me more about this.
I start by looking at a ballistic calculator like https://www.federalpremium.com/ballistics-calculator to see where I need to zero for my maximum ordinate to be around 2.5". I zero at whatever range that happens to be, usually 200-225 yards, then worry about POI at shorter and longer distances.
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My inference was a comparison to RDO alternatives, not specifically the zero range. IMO this is another advantage of a LPVO, for me and my eyes I can get a pretty darn precise 50yd zero with a 6x scope, but with a RDO I need a larger aiming point that is not nearly as precise. I have not done all this work, but it seems like with a 1-6x scope a fella could dial in the elevation where it should be at 50yds, and then maybe confirm things at the actual desired zero range.
I sure love me some RDO, but the more I shoot a LPVO at three gun the more I am starting to like it more than I thought I did. I actually went to one a bit under protest, with some question about stage design at the local club matches I am shooting. But I looked around at what the organizers were using, and figured I better Monkey-See/Monkey-Do, and at first was kinda pissed about it, since I had a nice gun with a nice RDO. But the more I use the LPVO the more I wonder if for anything outdoors it might be my first choice, and being able to establish a 50yd (or 100yd) zero that I am highly confident in is one of the reasons.
I am also finding low range magnification to be more helpful that I would have expected, like 40yds offhand at a bowling pin turns out 2x-3x is appreciated, and seems like something that would correlate to a hunting application (though I have more experience shooting than hunting). But at the same time being able to dial back to 1x and lay on your side shooting through a 3"-4" slot on the bottom of a VTAC-ish barricade when you can still look through the scope way beyond what would be typical eye relief.
I don’t try to get a more precise zero at 50, I use 50 to get me close and zero at 200. That’s with irons, red dots or scopes. You’ll find that you can be a few inches low at 200 with a 50 yard zero but get it zeroed at 200 and you won’t hardly see any difference in your 50 yard zero.
I tried the 100 yard zero but for me a 200 yard zero works best.
Reverse that. Confirm POI at the far distance, then check it up close. There's a lot of slop in the actual BC, actual muzzle velocity, actual height of the optic over the bore, etc., for that to work as well as it should.
Okie John
“The reliability of the 30-06 on most of the world’s non-dangerous game is so well established as to be beyond intelligent dispute.” Finn Aagaard
"Don't fuck with it" seems to prevent the vast majority of reported issues." BehindBlueI's
No matter what LPVO you’re running, videos like this one from an American fighting in Ukraine makes a strong argument for the addition of an offset red dot in addition to an LPVO.
(Music with profanities and killing Russians might be NSFW)
https://twitter.com/@twitter/status/1696289815149285535
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Possibly but that’s not an LPVO. Look at the front objective. That is at least a medium power (2 or 3x bottom end) scope on a DMR type set up.
The PA is still on sale for $255 if anyone is in the market for one.
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-...r-wire-reticle
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