LPVOs in 2023 and beyond

[Lex Luthier]

Has anyone tried pairing a compact prism 1x illuminated optic with a similarly compact magnifier? How did it work?

I'm thinking of something like a PA ACSS 1x with a Sig Micro3 might be nice for a lightweight 14.5" 5.56 that I need to go ahead and get built.

There is some discussion of the topic in this thread.
If I recall properly, a couple of folks have tried it and made it work well for them.

[SecondsCount]

I’ve hit E types at 900 with a 4x ACOG. You can hit things at 700-1,000 yards with irons too.

One thing higher magnification does that 1x or irons can’t it target identification. 6x gets me reasonable PID out to 300 which is a realistic GP carbine distance. Target ID is a GP carbine requirement for me. If that’s not a requirement for your uses rock on.

Target identification is key but also spotting your misses. The little bullets don't make much of a splash in the dirt.

[littlejerry]

Target identification is key but also spotting your misses. The little bullets don't make much of a splash in the dirt.

100% this. If you are on an actual UKD range you'll need to spot your misses. Past ~450 your range estimation(or lack of) can really screw you. Wind calls as well. If you can't see splash around the target you can't make corrections.

[HCM]

Target identification is key but also spotting your misses. The little bullets don't make much of a splash in the dirt.

True.

[Wake27]

Haven’t seen much discussion on them here but I have a Primary Arms PLx Compact 1-8 that should be delivered by Friday. I wanted to get a second Razor 1-10 so my 12.5 and 14.5 LPVO guns would have the same optic but due mostly to availability and curiosity, I figured I’d try this one out. I’m curious to see how much the weak brightness bothers me and will post some brief thoughts here when I can.


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[Exiledviking]

Haven’t seen much discussion on them here but I have a Primary Arms PLx Compact 1-8 that should be delivered by Friday. I wanted to get a second Razor 1-10 so my 12.5 and 14.5 LPVO guns would have the same optic but due mostly to availability and curiosity, I figured I’d try this one out. I’m curious to see how much the weak brightness bothers me and will post some brief thoughts here when I can.


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I look forward to your thoughts on it. I have the predecessor and it's a nice, but heavy, scope.

[Wake27]

Initial impressions are good. Nothing wow worthy but the only other LPVO I’ve used in over a year is the razor 1-10. The weight is definitely better but my 1-10 is on a much more established rifle with light, offset RDS, plus two inches of barrel and rail length. It’s definitely not daylight bright. Someone else called it daylight red which I think is very accurate. I’d guess that it’s bright enough for most people but I like my optics so bright that I’d kill Aimpoint batteries in about a year.

I’m probably going to try really hard to give it a thorough run but I’ve already been tempted to sell/return it and just get another Razor which is what I heavily weighed it against.


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[Tokarev]

SupersetCA "best of 2022" video



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[Biggy]

For 0 to 400 yds I still like my 14.5" inch barreled upper with the Kahles 1-6X with the G4B reticle. I recently added an ACRO P2 at 12 o'clock, and in it's role it works just fine *for me*.

https://www.westernshooter.com/2014/...24-sm1-review/

14.5", 12.5", 11.5" uppers

[rainman]

P4Xi 1-4x24 reduced to $599.99 (have to add-to-cart for sale price)...

https://cameralandny.com/shop?query=p4xi

I have one and like it well enough, but I bought before the price-hike that happened several years ago. Cheapest I've seen these in quite a while.

-Rainman