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    Quote Originally Posted by M2CattleCo View Post
    It is a new ballgame, but is it relevant?

    The trade-offs are only worth it if the increased capability offsets it.

    I don’t think there is really any justifiable civilian use of an AR against two-legged game where an LPVO is anything but a detriment.
    I try not to play the what if game. Im not arguing the use. I'm arguing about their employment.

    Additionally my points are relevant to hunting and competition so...

  2. #82
    Hunting, competition, and LARPing are where the LPVO excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2CattleCo View Post
    Hunting, competition, and LARPing are where the LPVO excel.
    Apparently the US military believes they're also pretty useful for designated marksman rifles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephrology View Post
    Apparently the US military believes they're also pretty useful for designated marksman rifles
    More relevant is the Army’s procurement of a different Tango 6 LPVO as an ACOG replacement for the “direct view optic” on standard M4A1s:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...iew-optic/amp/

    Of course it is worth remembering that these choices are heavily influenced by experiences in Afghanistan where longer ranges are the norm.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by M2CattleCo View Post
    Hunting, competition, and LARPing are where the LPVO excel.

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    I’m viewing the LPVO from a civilian’s perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2CattleCo View Post
    I’m viewing the LPVO from a civilian’s perspective.
    In that case basically every gun I own is purely for LARPing

    I do sincerely think LPVOs are a lot more fun from a sportsman's perspective than a red dot. I find dumping ammo into nearby targets with an AR gets pretty old, pretty fast. Particularly in the current ammo climate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2CattleCo View Post
    I’m viewing the LPVO from a civilian’s perspective.
    Positive ID and precision shots on partially exposed targets at shorter ranges are valid uses for both CONUS LE and some civilian users, though more so in rural areas.

    LPVO's don't make RDS obsolete, they each have areas where they excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC215 View Post
    Viper PST. 30 yard shot

    A job well done to the officers involved.

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    I saw him turn the mag ring before he took the shot. I wonder which way it went?

    That 30 yard shot, supported, in broad daylight is one of those times an LPVO worked, but didn’t help.

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