Canadian Special Forces pulls P320s from service after soldier injured by misfire

[TGS]

M45 A1? That's a horse cav pistol. You can do better.

As usual.

It's actually a USMC specific design/procurement from 2014 for 12,000 pieces.

[HCM]

Did early Glocks have some issue I’m not aware of?


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Early Glocks with the black internals were not drop safe. There were multiple incidents of dropped Glocks going off prior to Glock failing the drop testing portion of the DEA’s pistol testing in the early 90s.

This triggered the infamous Glock “it’s an upgrade not a recall.” In which the black internals were swapped for nickel / silver plated parts.

[farscott]

Yes, they did. Somewhat similar to what SIG is experiencing with the P320. There was an infamous "six-part recall" to fix issues where a slight change in the slide's height relative to the rails and/or impacts caused AD/NDs. Notably the trigger bar, firing pin, firing pin safety plunger, and firing pin safety spring were redesigned.

More at https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns...cks/13-160059/

[Borderland]

As usual.

It's actually a USMC specific design/procurement from 2014 for 12,000 pieces.

And it was an Army specification/procurement in 1911. How does that make it a different basic design?


The differences are these.

dual recoil system
80 firing pin safety
tritium night sight
cerakote ceramic coating
stainless steel internal parts
M1913 Picatinny rail under the barrel for mounting accessories

You should inspect them side by side sometime. Maybe even field strip them and compare.

[TGS]

The differences are these.

Missed some. Google harder next time.

Still not a cavalry pistol.

[HCM]

Yes, they did. Somewhat similar to what SIG is experiencing with the P320. There was an infamous "six-part recall" to fix issues where a slight change in the slide's height relative to the rails and/or impacts caused AD/NDs. Notably the trigger bar, firing pin, firing pin safety plunger, and firing pin safety spring were redesigned.

More at https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns...cks/13-160059/

Despite the terminology used by the ARFCOM poster Glock NEVER used the “R” word.

Glock was the originator of “it’s an upgrade” not a recall.

[Borderland]

Did early Glocks have some issue I’m not aware of?


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Now, in regards to the gun firing without the trigger being pulled at all. It’s important to admit that it has happened, there have been 2 occasions where Glock 17’s fired without the trigger being pulled due to the gun being knocked around.

https://aimingexpert.com/will-a-gloc...ut-a-magazine/

Not an issue because it's rare, but it's happened.

[Borderland]

Missed some. Google harder next time.

Still not a cavalry pistol.

I know that. The design is basically the same however.

[LockedBreech]

Borderland et. al, thank you for the correction on early Glocks. I was not into guns yet at the time as I was an infant. Always good to be humbled when I'm being smarmy, so I appreciate it.

[BehindBlueI's]

I'd bet a decent percentage is people who had their Glock shoot them when they went to remove the slide.

You'd win. When I tracked it, roughly 1/3 of all unintended discharges resulting in injury or death were due to improper clearing and then a trigger pull to break down the pistol. Reversing the clearing steps (running the slide THEN dropping the magazine) was prevalent, as was dropping the mag but forgetting to run the slide.