Tara TM9 Schmeisser SLP9 DA/SA striker pistol

[octagon]

Does anyone have any info on this pistol? It is the same gun originally made by Tara an Aerospace industry from Montenegro but then imported by Schmeisser to the US. The DARE trigger system works like a DA/SA trigger with 3mm reset after first shot and second strike capability. DA pull is supposed to be 6lbs or so. It is very Glock like including the slide,striker,striker block and general appearance. I'm curious about how the trigger works being so Glock like. I thought the TDA folks might know something about it or be interested.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...meisser-slp-9/

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...a-tm-9-pistol/

https://www.tara-aerospace.com/datas...sheet_TM-9.pdf

These 2 YT videos have some footage of the internals and workings but are in Spanish and another language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6BNeWUfqcI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goYs0CQWdz4

I'm not looking to get one just interested in how it works or a good schematic.

[spyderco monkey]

Does anyone have any info on this pistol? It is the same gun originally made by Tara an Aerospace industry from Montenegro but then imported by Schmeisser to the US. The DARE trigger system works like a DA/SA trigger with 3mm reset after first shot and second strike capability. DA pull is supposed to be 6lbs or so. It is very Glock like including the slide,striker,striker block and general appearance. I'm curious about how the trigger works being so Glock like. I thought the TDA folks might know something about it or be interested.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...meisser-slp-9/

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...a-tm-9-pistol/

https://www.tara-aerospace.com/datas...sheet_TM-9.pdf

These 2 YT videos have some footage of the internals and workings but are in Spanish and another language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6BNeWUfqcI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goYs0CQWdz4

I'm not looking to get one just interested in how it works or a good schematic.

If I had to guess, I imagine they are using the DA/SA Striker design of the Walther P99.

Which is a cool design.

[Elwin]

It looks like it doesn’t have a decocker and isn’t actually DA/SA exactly. It strikes me as more like a striker fired LEM. A long DA pull but with a short reset that allows subsequent shots to be more SA- like until one stops firing and lets the trigger return all the way back forward, which means the next pull will be the full DA stroke again.

But that’s just my guess based on incomplete information - I’m ready to be proven wrong. Though it does seem cool.

[PX4 Storm Tracker]

Escuché todo el vídeo en Español. Bien explicado, pero falta una cosita. Oh, sorry... I listened to all of the video in Spanish. It is well explained but it is lacking one function. The part that I find missing in the video is a demonstration of trigger reset after cycling.

In the explanation that the poster made the striker is always forward, resting on the striker block until the trigger bar brings it all the way back to cock it and then a release lets it go forward.

The trigger bar is set up to not only do a full double action pull, but also to deactivate the striker block. Second strike capability happens in the same way that a double action pistol would have.

Disassembly does not require pulling the trigger. The striker is already forward and would be again after trigger pull, anyway.

Though there are so many things that are similar to the Glock 17 that he compares it to as he is speaking, the biggest difference would be the striker starts from all the way forward and must be cocked and released by the trigger.

I would be curious to see the trigger reset after cycling.

In the MilMag video reset after cycling seems more like a double action only.

[TheNewbie]

Escuché todo el vídeo en Español. Bien explicado, pero falta una cosita. Oh, sorry... I listened to all of the video in Spanish. It is well explained but it is lacking one function. The part that I find missing in the video is a demonstration of trigger reset after cycling.

In the explanation that the poster made the striker is always forward, resting on the striker block until the trigger bar brings it all the way back to cock it and then a release lets it go forward.

The trigger bar is set up to not only do a full double action pull, but also to deactivate the striker block. Second strike capability happens in the same way that a double action pistol would have.

Disassembly does not require pulling the trigger. The striker is already forward and would be again after trigger pull, anyway.

Though there are so many things that are similar to the Glock 17 that he compares it to as he is speaking, the biggest difference would be the striker starts from all the way forward and must be cocked and released by the trigger.

I would be curious to see the trigger reset after cycling.

In the MilMag video reset after cycling seems more like a double action only.

Donde aprendiste tu espanol?



A more true DAO like trigger on a Glock would be interesting. Especially combined with a SCD.

[PX4 Storm Tracker]

Donde aprendiste tu espanol?...

Mientras yo criaba en Nueva York había mucha gente de Colombia y Puerto Rico. Me encantaba el idioma y estudié algunos años en escuela secundaria. Después de servir en el militar me encontré en Tejas donde hay mucha gente Mexicana. Me lo enseñaba en el usar. Practicando platicando... ja ja.

Translation: while I was growing up in New York there were a lot of people from Colombia and Puerto Rico. I found the language charming and studied a couple of years of it in high school.
After serving in the military I found myself in Texas where there are a lot of people that are Mexican. I taught myself by reason of use. Practicing while chatting with people ha, ha.

[TheNewbie]

Mientras yo criaba en Nueva York había mucha gente de Columbia y Puerto Rico. Me encantaba el idioma y estudié algunos años en escuela secundaria. Después de servir en el militar me encontré en Tejas donde hay mucha gente Mexicana. Me lo enseñaba en el usar. Practicando platicando... ja ja.

Translation: while I was growing up in New York there were a lot of people from Columbia and Puerto Rico. I found the language charming and studied a couple of years of it in high school.
After serving in the military I found myself in Texas where there were a lot of people that were Mexican. I taught myself by reason of use. Practicing while chatting with people ha, ha.

Excelente!


Your spanish is better than mine, and I have no excuse since my wife is from Mexico!


Would the trigger in this gun be similar to the one the the Taurus G3 that allows second strike?

[BigT]

I have some trigger time on the original

I would run in the opposite direction

[Hambo]

Mientras yo criaba en Nueva York había mucha gente de Colombia y Puerto Rico. Me encantaba el idioma y estudié algunos años en escuela secundaria. Después de servir en el militar me encontré en Tejas donde hay mucha gente Mexicana. Me lo enseñaba en el usar. Practicando platicando... ja ja.

En mi experiencia, practicando la conversación es mejor que las clases en la universidad. Y ahora, la pistola...

I'd buy this just because it says Schmeisser on the slide.

[TheNewbie]

I have some trigger time on the original

I would run in the opposite direction

That bad eh ?

Anything you can compare it too?