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    Small pistols that allow thumbing the hammer

    I'm considering my options for a carry pistol and I'd like to narrow my search to pistols that meet two specific constraints.

    1. Does not have a fully tensioned striker, and

    2. Allows thumbing the "hammer" when holstering.

    DA/SA guns with external hammers obviously meet both of these, and I have a few, but they tend to be heavier and have short barrels relative to their striker fired peers. Some other examples include:

    - Glocks allow the installation of a striker control device.
    - I believe that both the CZ P10 and FN pistols have partially tensioned strikers so someone could make a striker control device, but no one does
    - My ruger lcp has a mostly internal hammer but I can still stop it from moving if I press just right with my thumb

    Guns like the Kahr PM9 are double action (ish?) but I don't see a way to thumb the striker

    Any other ideas on what to look at?

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    I have no personal experience with this pistol, but it may meet your criteria.

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    HAS ELECTROLYTES LittleLebowski's Avatar
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    SCDs are limited to Glocks for a number of reasons. So, you can go with a Beretta PX4 Compact, some sort of small 1911, any of the smaller Glocks, or a revolver.

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    I am a broken record on this topic:

    The Walther P99c is not for everybody, of course (paddle mag release is off-putting for some), but should be on your list to at least look at. It the size of a G26, striker fired, DA/SA, and holding down the decocker button is similar to thumbing the hammer on a hammer-fired DA/SA in that there is a lug on the upper side of the striker which interfaces with a piece of the decocker button such that when the decocker button is held down, the striker cannot travel far enough forward to strike the primer of a chambered round even if the trigger is pulled through its entire stroke.

    (I have personally verified this with mine and a primed but otherwise empty case. Hold decocker button down, pull trigger, and you get a click from the striker being tensioned and then released, but nothing else happens. Release decocker button, pull trigger, primer pops.)

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    Wag more, Bark less RJ's Avatar
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    Carried an HK P30SK LEM V1 with a USPc mag AOWB in a Mitch Rosen Upper Limit holster for a year or so.

    Only thing I would do differently today would be a mod (TRS spring?) to make the press slightly heavier.

    Itís an extremely versatile setup.

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    From the other thread, Iím going to go with very small pistols (G43 sized).

    XR9S (9mm bullpup)
    Bodyguard 380
    Kimber Micro 9 (and Micro 380), similar to P938/238.

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    Here are their actions:

    As you can see, they are very small pistols.
    I used to carry a Micro 9 before the P365 came out.

    EDIT: added some size comparison pictures

    G42 (380) vs. XR9S (9mm)

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    Might be larger than you want, but Walther PPS M2 is a slim and fairly small partially-cocked-striker fired gun that allows you to "thumb" the striker much like an SCD on a glock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olstyn View Post
    The Walther P99c
    Awesome, looks interesting.

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    HK P30SK LEM V1
    I had been looking at this one. It's starting to get pretty heavy at 24 oz though.

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    Kimber Micro 9
    Thank you for the video and pictures! The Kimber doesn't really qualify though because it's SAO right? Has to be carried cocked and locked?

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    Walther PPS M2
    Awesome thanks. Walther making both this and the P99c seems a little odd. I'll read more about the differences

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    The first generation LCP kinda allows thumbing the little hammer nub. Kinda.

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    Ironically enough I discovered that a gun I already own meets these conditions.

    The Ruger SR9C is not fully cocked, and has a cocking indicator that extends out the back of the gun when pulling the trigger.

    It's also a little on the chubby side at 23.5 oz for a 3.4" barrel striker fired gun. A 43x is nearly 5 oz less.

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