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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler View Post
    I guess budgets are relative?

    $100 for a pocket knife isn’t what I’d consider “low budget.” That’s right at what I paid for my Benchmade Grizzly Ridge.
    The regular Provoke lists for $199, so......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Whitlock View Post
    The regular Provoke lists for $199, so......
    That doesn’t really change my opinion of what qualifies as a “low budget” item. That just makes it a less expensive alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Very cool. I’m just not into the Karambit.
    What is the advantage/disadvantage of the design? I assume this is designed to fight with, not as a utility knife, but I wouldn't even testify to that under oath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    What is the advantage/disadvantage of the design? I assume this is designed to fight with, not as a utility knife, but I wouldn't even testify to that under oath.
    Actually, Karambits are good boxcutters . I know people who swear by them as defensive tools, and they can be very effective. Personally, I find the design limiting, and none of the people I've trained with promoted their use. I prefer a knife that can be used in any of the conventional grips, and isn't super specialized. I like to train so that any random knife feels useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    What is the advantage/disadvantage of the design? I assume this is designed to fight with, not as a utility knife, but I wouldn't even testify to that under oath.
    As for disadvantages, top of the list is the risk of degloving your finger with that silly ring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    What is the advantage/disadvantage of the design? I assume this is designed to fight with, not as a utility knife, but I wouldn't even testify to that under oath.
    Modern karambits often are designed for defense, but, IIRC, the original design was essentially a tool for farmers and fishermen in Indonesia (like a small hand scythe?). Pencak Silat (spelling?), the martial art of those islands, uses the karambit extensively as it is a very good slasher and traps well.

    While I am no expert in its use, I have found that, used in a forward grip, it makes for a very good 'get off me' knife for the weak hand where basically all you do is hack at whatever is trying to get at you or holding you. The effect on hand/forearm would be nasty. Another limited, and kinda niche advantage, is the ring; specifically, in a forward grip hold, if you have managed to gain space to deploy your gun (strong hand), you can just open your weak hand and the karambit will drop (hanging by the pinky) and you can get a two good two-handed grip on your gun while not losing your knife.

    The "proper" method, as is taught in the martial arts that use the karambit, is in reverse grip. Since I don't have training in that, I can't comment on it.

    The main disadvantage (aside from degloving by the ring) is that it doesn't stab well and can't use straight lines, at least not as easily a curved ones.

    As a tool, it's excellent for opening boxes. Any work that a Clinch Pick can do (which is a lot as discussed in another thread), the karambit will do.
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    I thought it was a Mexican design. Ay caramba karambit!
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    Advantages of the original Provoke:

    Cool design

    Addictive as hell to pop open

    Very robust and reliable opening

    Blade length adheres to the letter of many restrictive laws, if possibly giving the spirit the finger.

    Disadvantages:

    Ring can be a problem, per LHS, above—although this one is pretty large

    Sort of a one-trick, three-lines/angles pony. Not very versatile at all, IMHO.



    I like it, again, because it’s technically legal in places requiring sub 3” or even 2.5” folders, and the opening is the most reliable of any folding knife I’ve tried—including wave, OTF, etc.

    The main issue is that when it does pop open, you’re holding a Karambit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    I thought it was a Mexican design. Ay caramba karambit!
    La C K R Tcha! La C K R Tcha!
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    I can tell you this about the original Provoke: it's hard to put down.

    I have one as the result of another PFC member's inability to judge who is deserving of gifts. It's my summer knife and I love it...it clips into board shorts and is invisible there and I got the draw shockingly fast. You can also punyo like no tomorrow with it; a hard hammer on any vulnerable point will wreck stuff.

    Plus, you open that thing and guys are like "I'm not fighting a fucking Klingon ninja wtf fuck this" and bail. Or so I assume and hope.
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