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    I'm intrigued by how well one's iron sight index might translate to indexing to this dot.

    @HCM re SHO/WHO or unconventional positions - can you expand on that watch out? If one can find one's front sight in those scenarios and this dot co-witnesses to the front sight . . . ?

    I'd like to see one mounted live.

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    Just because you can see through the rear window doesn't mean you will see the dot.

    In unconventional positions and one handed you can't rely on your index like you can in a conventional 2 handed standing or seated position.

    When you use Iron sights you are always using your peripheral vision to help pick up and align the sights, whether consciously or unconsciously. This is where the "scope shadow" of tube sights like Aimpoint Micros and ACROs or semi tube sights like the SRO is useful. The new Holosun with Vulcan reticle uses the same concept.

    Using co-witness to find the dot is doing 4 things vs doing 1 thing. Unconventional positions is one of the few times it can be useful but still sub optimal.

    The other issue is how much of the tiny window is taken up by the front sight ? My initial dislike of the RMR was based in part on the fact that the True co-witness BUIS took up half of what was an already small window. A switch to 1/4 co-witness BUIS made the RMR much more usable.

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    I can appreciate the outside the box thinking, but for now until proven otherwise a participation trophy is all I can give Leupold on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Just because you can see through the rear window doesn't mean you will see the dot.

    In unconventional positions and one handed you can't rely on your index like you can in a conventional 2 handed standing or seated position.

    When you use Iron sights you are always using your peripheral vision to help pick up and align the sights, whether consciously or unconsciously. This is where the "scope shadow" of tube sights like Aimpoint Micros and ACROs or semi tube sights like the SRO is useful. The new Holosun with Vulcan reticle uses the same concept.

    Using co-witness to find the dot is doing 4 things vs doing 1 thing. Unconventional positions is one of the few times it can be useful but still sub optimal.

    The other issue is how much of the tiny window is taken up by the front sight ? My initial dislike of the RMR was based in part on the fact that the True co-witness BUIS took up half of what was an already small window. A switch to 1/4 co-witness BUIS made the RMR much more usable.
    Thanks!

    Co-witness is just how you find your front sight if the RDS fails. That's been my understanding of the concept on carbines anyway.

    The interesting thing about co-witness in this context is about how close to habituated iron sight indexes might be to acquiring the dot. That was the reference to the co-witness I was aiming at.

    Front post might be occluding massive real estate, especially with a HD front.

    I guess it won't be out for months so its mostly moot at this point. It'll be fun (to me anyway) to hear more about it. There isn't a single RDS on the market tempting me at all presently so I'm all for new takes on the subject.
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    includes a view through the optic.

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    Do you think the giant sloped surface reflecting light draws the eye down ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    includes a view through the optic.

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    Nice find. At the 3:47 mark there's a glimpse of the view through recoil. FWIW.
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    I just like somebody taking a flier in a different direction. The real range reviews will be the daddy. I am reminded of the universal TRASHING AR pistols got when they first arrived on the scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    I just like somebody taking a flier in a different direction. The real range reviews will be the daddy. I am reminded of the universal TRASHING AR pistols got when they first arrived on the scene.
    Before braces, the thrashing was valid.

    I can see the market for this being 1) dot curious individuals and if viable, 2) cheap PD's that don't want to spring for new guns, people who want a dot but cant cut up an issued / mandated gun.

    It will work in most non RDS concealment holsters but a true retention holster like a 6360 ALS/SLS would be a no go.

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