Picking up a new to me P228

[HCM]

The 229-1 mags in 9mm hold 15 rounds, not 13. 226 mags will work in the guns, but they rattle.

I think you are conflating the original 9mm 229 with the 229–1. SIG was making the original 13 round 229 for over a decade before the switch to the 229-1. They’re not the same gun.

The 229-1 mags do indeed hold 15 rounds, because they were made to fit the increased internal volume of the 229-1 frame, which is really the .40 cal frame.

However, the original 9mm 229 which replaced the 228 used a 9mm specific frame which used the 13 round P228 magazines. Hence the “-1”

229-1 mags won’t fit in the original 229 9mm frame (or the P228 frame).

Yes 13 rounder rattle around in the 229-1/40 frame but IME they work, at least well enough for range use. Same with shooing 9mm out of the cheaper and plentiful 40/357 mags.

The real motivation behind the -1 was streamlining production to a single frame for all calibers to save money at a time SIG was trying desperately to find ways to cut production costs on the classic P series guns.

[OlongJohnson]

I think you are conflating the original 9mm 229 with the 229–1. SIG was making the original 13 round 229 for over a decade before the switch to the 229-1. They’re not the same gun.

The 229-1 mags do indeed hold 15 rounds, because they were made to fit the increased internal volume of the 229-1 frame, which is really the .40 cal frame.

However, the original 9mm 229 which replaced the 228 used a 9mm specific frame which used the 13 round P228 magazines. Hence the “-1”

229-1 mags won’t fit in the original 229 9mm frame (or the P228 frame).

Yes 13 rounder rattle around in the 229-1/40 frame but IME they work, at least well enough for range use. Same with shooing 9mm out of the cheaper and plentiful 40/357 mags.

The real motivation behind the -1 was streamlining production to a single frame for all calibers to save money at a time SIG was trying desperately to find ways to cut production costs on the classic P series guns.

Not conflating anything, and I understand they're not the same gun. There was discussion of 229-1 vs 229 mags in the posts before my prior post, but no one had mentioned the fact that 229-1 mags hold 15 rounds. Two more rounds might be valuable information to some.

And 226 mags do work in my M11-A1 (which is basically a rail-less current-era 229 and comes with 229-1 mags), they just rattle. I haven't reliability tested them, but I can't recall reading of any issues using the older skinny mags in 229-1 guns.

I didn't say anything about the 229 or 228.

[iWander]

Finally picked it up today. The marks show it as a 1996, with a "Made In Germany" mark on the slide. It came with a Short Reset Trigger installed, two 10rd factory mags and three 13rd mags, what appears to be the original manual with a "PRE-OWNED" stamp on it, blue factory case with a partial label, and two High Noon holsters. I'm at least the third owner and very happy!

[Arbninftry]

KG is a 96 year model.



Looks like your barrel was proofed in Keil Germany, also

[SouthNarc]

Damn good looking gun!

[iWander]

Researching the serial number, it should have a grey plastic box and a different manual. I've never heard of a pre-owned stamped manual either. Anyone ever heard of a CPO with a blue box?

[Brian T]

The first few weeks or months of the CPO program, the boxes were blue, then they went to red.

[CSW]

I've had my West German P228 since 1992, and a P6 from their first importation. Possibly the 2 best guns [old] Sig ever built.

[VT1032]

Congrats on a solid choice. If memory serves me, the Vermont State Police had the P228 as their general issue pistol in the early 90’s. I don’t know what they carry today. I departed that state a long, long time ago.

After the 228's, VSP switched to P229 DAK's in .40, and then in 2011 or so switched to M&P40's. I think they are on their second batch of those now. On the theme of guns you regret selling, I had one of the first batch of VSP stamped M&Ps, but sold it a few years ago like an idiot. Definitely wouldn't mind having that back.

[RAM Engineer]

I've had my West German P228 since 1992, and a P6 from their first importation. Possibly the 2 best guns [old] Sig ever built.

100% agree with that assessment.