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    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    Kinda like my 140gr xtp at 1150fps
    What's recoil/blast/flash like on those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    What's recoil/blast/flash like on those?
    Not bad at all. I can ring 10x12" steel pretty rapidly at 40 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetfire View Post
    It’s a shame that actual science and calm analysis of real world results show us that 125gr JHP from a 357 Mag is exactly as effective as 124gr JHP from a 9mm.
    The Christmas season must be here since this popped straight to mind:

    "'The sun would have risen just the same, yes?'
    NO
    'Oh, come on. You can't expect me to believe that. It's an astronomical fact.'
    THE SUN WOULD NOT HAVE RISEN.
    ...
    'Really? Then what would have happened, pray?'
    A MERE BALL OF FLAMING GAS WOULD HAVE ILLUMINATED THE WORLD."

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    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    Have you a link to those results? Or search term?
    Actual heads up comparison done in a controlled environment under repeatable conditions by an industry expert.

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/

    Pay special attention to where similar rounds are shot, like Critical Duty 357 Mag vs Critical Duty 9mm. Performance is exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    Kinda like my 140gr xtp at 1150fps
    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    What's recoil/blast/flash like on those?
    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    Not bad at all. I can ring 10x12" steel pretty rapidly at 40 yards.
    Yup, exactly. What powder did you use?
    In this case it would be tempting to carry reloads, something I try and avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetfire View Post
    Actual heads up comparison done in a controlled environment under repeatable conditions by an industry expert.

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/

    Pay special attention to where similar rounds are shot, like Critical Duty 357 Mag vs Critical Duty 9mm. Performance is exactly the same.
    Very interesting. They use Clear Ballistics gel, is that kosher?

    The Fed HST .38 looked pretty impressive. As did some of the all copper loads in .357.

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    I carry the barnes 125 in my 3 inch GP-100. They shoot pretty soft and after the tests lucky gunner did it seemed like a good round for 2 or 4 legged creatures. I did also test them out of my k6 and they were still very controllable, but didn't seem as close to POA/POI as the 135 +P gold dot 38s.

    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    Very interesting. They use Clear Ballistics gel, is that kosher?

    The Fed HST .38 looked pretty impressive. As did some of the all copper loads in .357.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmc45414 View Post
    Yup, exactly. What powder did you use?
    In this case it would be tempting to carry reloads, something I try and avoid.
    9gr unique.

    I was shooting for 1250fps but it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    Very interesting. They use Clear Ballistics gel, is that kosher?

    The Fed HST .38 looked pretty impressive. As did some of the all copper loads in .357.
    No, i haven't been to impressed with the .38 hsts in organic gel.
    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....ullet-Gel-Test

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetfire View Post
    It’s a shame that actual science and calm analysis of real world results show us that 125gr JHP from a 357 Mag is exactly as effective as 124gr JHP from a 9mm.
    Maybe. Particularly if loaded to the same fps or to meet the same penetration goals. However the .357 can certainly be loaded hotter and gain more penetration if someone wants it. That's rarely the same as more effective, but can be when heavier intermediate barriers are in place. I'm sure you are already aware, but many folks don't stop to think that the makers load "duty rounds" to meet a set standard that has both a lower and an upper specification so a lot of "potential", so to speak, is wasted in various cartridges so as to not go over that maximum desired penetration.

    Quote Originally Posted by jetfire View Post

    Pay special attention to where similar rounds are shot, like Critical Duty 357 Mag vs Critical Duty 9mm. Performance is exactly the same.
    If we're talking purely physical results on target, I have yet to see a Critical Duty .357 Magnum stay in a human but have seen the 9mm do so in similar circumstances. The .357 is nearly 200 fps faster in the 135 gr category, and anecdotally it expands but not as much as the 9mm. If by performance you just mean "makes bad guys stop doing what they are doing", it's probably so close as to be a wash for what most of us are concerned with.

    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    Very interesting. They use Clear Ballistics gel, is that kosher?
    No. Well, I mean it might be literally kosher, but it's not the standard for FBI style testing.
    Sorta around sometimes for some of your shitty mod needs.

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