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    Oh yes indeed, losing weight is the #1 AIWB enhancement ever devised by man. I dropped 85# from February 2018 to February 2019, and it has been a game changer in all sorts of ways. Went from a 46” chest and 44” waist to a 44” chest and a 32” waist. That helps hide all manner of hardware.

    It did require an entirely new wardrobe, however.

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    Snowshoeing: 10.5mi, 2500 vertical. All-day comfort carrying a P-07 AIWB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjmitchem View Post
    For undershirts, I've had good luck with UnderArmour. The one's below are well-made and fairly cheap. I usually wear a Columbia Tamiami fishing shirt on top to conceal.

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    Agreed - the tech-t shirt or the UA Tactical equivalent has worked well for me. I find compression shirts uncomfortable.
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    Comfortable AIWB

    Follow up to @RJ ‘s junk carry pillow posts: Here is how mine is adjusted—below the muzzle and tilted right. This keeps the holster tucked, and muzzle away from critical areas, but also adds padding at the groin and inner thigh during movement. The pad extension serves the same purpose as a longer holster (eg P-09 length) but without the stiffness. Honestly I don’t think I could hike and climb all day without it.

    Last edited by Clusterfrack; 01-18-2021 at 10:47 AM.
    "BJJ is sort of like nonconsensual yoga"
    "You don’t really graduate from certain problems or certain things… like you always have to work on trigger control and pulling the trigger straight. " --Ben Stoeger 1/24/2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Follow up to @RJ ‘s junk carry pillow posts: Here is how mine is adjusted—below the muzzle and tilted right. This keeps the holster tucked, and muzzle away from critical areas, but also adds padding at the groin and inner thigh during movement. Honestly I don’t think I could hike and climb all day without it.

    I know this may be overkill, but I always wondered if there would be a market for an AIWB holster with a Kevlar junk pillow holster shroud. So if you discharge in your holster it would catch it rather than destroy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    I know this may be overkill, but I always wondered if there would be a market for an AIWB holster with a Kevlar junk pillow holster shroud. So if you discharge in your holster it would catch it rather than destroy stuff.
    Destroy ‘stuff’. LOL! Interesting idea. The engineering and testing would be a fun project. The legal issues with selling it not so much.
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    "You don’t really graduate from certain problems or certain things… like you always have to work on trigger control and pulling the trigger straight. " --Ben Stoeger 1/24/2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Destroy ‘stuff’. LOL! Interesting idea. The engineering and testing would be a fun project. The legal issues with selling it not so much.
    I think if it wasn’t advertised as some sort of armor standard... ah wait, who am I kidding, you know SOMEONE would purposely do something stupid and blame someone else.

    When I was working on the Fawbush drill (three shots from concealed draw in one second) I was concerned enough for shooting myself that I layered soft armor on my groin down to my foot.

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    I spent some useful time re-reading the massive 2,000+ post AIWB thread over the last several days to compile some tips. I'm like, the last person to provide advice on AIWB, since I've been carrying that way for a whopping two weeks. But just in case it helps anyone, here's what I thought was useful, from coming at this new.

    Feel free to add your own tips to it.



    AIWB Tip Compilation

    When you are just starting, try Mexican carry with an unloaded gun. Triple check your gun is unloaded. Stand normally. Insert the unloaded gun into your waistband. Put it low, but make sure you can get a full grip on it. Sit, walk, watch TV, do things around the house that you normally do. Put your shoes on and tie the laces. Make lunch. Work on the computer. Getting used to how the gun sits 'where it wants to' may help decide where to set it up later.


    Holster slowly. Yeah this seems obvious. but when I started to do dry draws on the timer, it would go off and I'd be hell for leather making a fast draw. Then I had to consciously slow myself down holstering. Some say add a "hard break" mentally on the holster, and look the gun in.


    Lean body / hips forward to holster. I had to try this one before it made sense, and it does. Just a slight push forward on your hips places the holster and gun forward away from your front.


    Thumb the hammer or SCD to holster. For me, a hammer-fired gun or a Glock equipped with a Tau Industries Striker Control Device is an absolute must for AIWB.


    Loosen belt slightly when driving. This seems kind of obvious, but the point here is to chose a belt with ability to vary tension by very small degrees. So far, I managed to pick a winner in the Mastermind Tactics Specialist belt. It a very simple belt with velcro and a retainer. And great value.


    Pick a holster with specific AIWB features. I ended up with a used Dark Star Gear Hitchhiker, and I am very glad I bought it. Features like the Dark Wing and foam pad really help in situating the gun properly, and in comfort in resting in my inguinal crease. To assist in getting get a good starting location of where to fit the foam pad on the velcro, drop trow, place the Pad where it seems to "fit", then "attach" the empty holster to the pad, where it ends up. Remove the pad and holster, Insert the unloaded gun and then dress normally. Doing this, the foam pad will then start out near a good fit in your “gentleman” area.


    Mark foam pad location with dots made by a silver sharpie. I've found this really useful, as having the silver sharpie to make alignment dots on both the foam and velcro I don't have to remember exactly where I located the foam, each time I take it off.


    Thread belt with tail ‘away’ from holster. This wasn't clear to me, being a lefty. I initially threaded the belt like a right handed person, and the tongue was interfering with how the holster lay. I flipped the belt 180, so the tail ended going "away" from the buckle, and now sits at about 3 o'clock.


    Wear a compression moisture wicking undershirt. I'm not sold on this yet, I don't find that I have comfort issues, since the DSG holster I got has a full sweat guard. The rear sights on my G48 are very low profile, and unstabby. I would be more concerned with Trijicon HDs, or a holster with a half or no sweat guard.





    And that's it. As say, hope someone finds one or more of these helpful. I sure got a ton of info out of this thread and I really appreciate all the contributions.



    @Clusterfrack I bought some Poly-Fil and Sewable Velcro tape today at Joann's Fabrics. Mrs. RJ is going to grant me permission to use her sewing machine tomorrow, so I hope to make some progress on my JCP for the G48.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Snowshoeing: 10.5mi, 2500 vertical. All-day comfort carrying a P-07 AIWB.


    Snowshoeing is serious exercise. Few things will make you sweat in the wintertime.

    Unless of course you don't have snowshoes and you are post-holing through the snow trying to get somewhere, cussing to yourself, saying "Next time bring the damn snowshoes!"
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    Made quite a bit of progress today. I cut out patterns for production, Alpha and Bravo. Both A and B were to size of pattern ver 1.1. I pinned and hemmed both, and then made the bellows on each. After sewing on the velcro, I flipped Alpha out and stuffed it with Poly-fil to a fairly good degree. I pinned it and attached it in place on my G48 DSG holster:

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    I didn't run the final closing seam because I'm on the fence on whether the size of the JCP that I ended up with is too small. I stopped sewing on Bravo because of this, but it's about 1/2 way through being done. I'll trial fit Alpha "in use" tomorrow while I decide what to do One reason it may have ended smaller than my concept was the fact I hemmed all four sides about 1/4", making the JCP smaller by quite a bit when reversed.

    Still, on the plus side, sewing was not too bad, after some guidance from my patient wife. My seams are not exactly tightrope straight, that's for sure.
    Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught.
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